Vulpera Recruitement

Maybe it’s different in universe to how its depicted in game and it works Harry Potter style. They actually teleport in pre cooked food made in a kitchen somewhere in Dalaran rather than the strange looking arcane stuff mages summon.

Doesn’t solve the problem of where the food comes from though. No farms, remember?

No, I’m pretty sure I read somewhere that conjured food can be used for sustenance, it just isn’t in most of the world because it’s not practical to have mages conjuring food 24/7. Also, what the players can conjure is not the end-all of what can be conjured. I distinctly remember one of the in-game books somewhere mentioning Nielas Aran (Medhiv’s father) mastering a way of summoning apple cider…

Conjured food also disappears fifteen minutes after you log out. Obviously NPCs can’t “log out”, but maybe it means conjured food can’t be stored? Maybe gameplay mechanics allow us to conjure food as easily as we do and it’s actually a lot harder to do? Like the average mage only has enough mana to summon a loaf of bread before they start losing limbs in Food Transmutation spells.

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This is incorrect, conjured food does not provide any nutrients otherwise they would have solved the hunger in the world and maybe we would not had the cata war starting because the orcs were starving.

Well no, they wouldn’t have solved world hunger because conjured food isn’t infinitely renewable. Using magic draws upon the energy and nutrients of the mages, who in turn have to eat in order to restore what’s lost.

It came up in Cycle of Hatred I believe; I know it was one of the novels, but which one precisely escapes me right now.) Though not represented mechanically in-game, the long and short of it is that using arcane magic burns nutrients at an even faster rate than physical exertion, so on top of just needing to eat in general mages have to eat and drink fluids explicitly to “recharge” or risk starving themselves to death from over-casting. It was, according to Jaina, one of the earliest and most important lessons Dalaran teaches its mages-in-training to avoid zealous students unwittingly killing themselves by overexerting without regular food and water breaks during their studies.

So by creating food for everyone else, the mages would in turn need to eat even more food themselves to continue conjuring, producing a net loss in throughput. Ultimately conjuring food is only a short-term “fix” to feed others; in society at large someone still has to be producing enough food the “old fashioned way” to effectively feed everyone.

This topic went off on a weird tangent. Long of the short of it, its about the Vulpera proving that they are worth investing assets into; and by extension being worthy of an apparent seat at the Horde council. It is also about Blizz defining their niche in the Horde, which is important. They are the “Odd Jobs” group. Not specialized in anything, but proficient enough in everything that they can act as support for everyone. It is strangely a role that needed filling in the Horde.

Side note. The quest also briefly touches on issues facing three of the other ARs; to various degrees of dire. It has Baine placed in a role he might actually work well in; serving as the Council liaison to all the races, ensuring their needs are addressed and met by the Horde Faction. It has Ji being somewhat relevant. Overall, despite everything else about the writing of BfA, I will enjoy this recruitment scenario like all the other Horde AR recruitment scenarios.

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i disagree, they bring nothing to the table that the horde already didn’t had.

They added them because they are cute and thats it.

i believe that they are useless in terms of warpower.

Isn’t “cute” a role that the Horde needs filling?

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Imagine doing powerlevels in wow lol

Horde doesn’t have a playable “dog” race. Alliance does :stuck_out_tongue:

Not if Baine has something to say about it.

i don’t know katiera take a look at the allied races, everyone brings at least something unique to the faction, something that they could be used on, the zandalari got a navy (well not anymore for now but you know what i mean) and dinos, same with kultirans.

that is not power level lol.

oh sure, i am just talking about about actual soldiers or warpower

worgens at least are specialized in something.

What are worgen specialized in?

Why should I care about them in a Warpower capacity? Its not like they’re incapable fighters, but as shallow as their lore-pool is atm … they’re an economics based race like Goblins are. Its all trade, transport, and odd jobs. They also are apparently quite adept at living in harsh, dry environments … so maybe they can teach the Horde how to better make use of their Kalimdor terrain.

Beyond that, yeah, they’re cute. However, we also got them because Goblins are too much of a niche core race to really justify making Kelfin into a playable AR. I would honestly not be shocked if the Vulpera have a higher player pop than the rigs their furry butts were based off of. The assets were invested already. Their reps were well liked, if simple and underdeveloped. They do conceptually have a lot of generic Horde race traits if you look past their appearances.

So, they’re fine. They’re nothing special, but they should fit right into the faction without rocking the boat too much. I’ll enjoy their recruitment scenario, and them being part of the Horde.

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Hunt, ambush, guerrila tactics,ects they also have strong warriors that they can use in the frontlines.
The worgen curse is also something unique and a little “dark” aspect of the alliance.

Well because the allied races are supposed to reinforce a faction not to make them weaker.
goblins for example can build any sort of weapons and mechs.

maybe because i haven’t seen them do much that i am sceptical towards them. same with velfs.

Maybe in the future we can see them doing something exciting.
otherwise i fear that they will fall in the same category as pandas.

being nelf dogs

Btw its not like in real life, stronger nations carry weaker ones, the USA does it all the time.

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They know how to get through ruff times.

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They aren’t really built as a race that will steal the spotlight conceptually. If anything, they are more the types to be used as an additive race in various scenarios. However, on a base level, they are an ex-slave race, with a vicious edge, that prioritizes survival at most costs. That’s about as generic Horde Race as you can get … once you look past their fluffy exteriors.

Beyond that. They do bring their reps into the Faction. Nisha, Mira, and Kiro all were fairly fun to interact with, and have enough of a range in temperament and personality to allow them to pop up in a relatively wide spectrum of stories. As a Gob fan, it might be neat to see them in a business partner capacity for my PC race. With Gazlowe in charge of the cartel now, there is certainly opportunity for it now. No way could that have happened with Wix in charge.

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It’s a nice spread of characters through the Horde spectrum as well. Kiro really feels like he identifies with the Horde that Thrall, Cairne, and Vol’jin were trying to build, the Horde that Rexxar championed. Capability tempered by wisdom. Nisha is much more hot-headed, proud, and blood-thirsty. She reminds me a lot of a pre-fall Garrosh. Mira is just a good example of a civilian; good natured and trying to live a good life.

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