Vulpera Recruitement

You keep contradicting yourself so much it is funny at this point.

Both sides were stretched too thin due to the war. Yet only one side refuses to accept formal help from an already proven ally because of it, while the other welcomes in a new faction no questions asked.

And yet you said that things don’t get magically fixed when a war ends. Clearly it does for one side.

2 Likes

As a side note. This is about the only role I would be happy with Baine being in within the Horde.

Him serving as a diplomatic liaison between all the Horde races trying to facilitate their needs. He also seems to be the one serving as diplomat with the Alliance … no matter how questionable I find that. But, him serving this role within the Horde fits him as a character; keeps him busy and out of the way; ensures that he wont really be making any major military or defense oriented decisions; and he can focus on humanitarian aid and reconstruction like he has shown he’s good at.

8 Likes

Actually Jaina does during the intro chain to Nazjatar. The alliance sends the Kul Tiran fleet to destroy what remains of the hordes fleet, however a large bulk of the alliances forces were destroyed because of the trap.

https://www.wowhead.com/quest=54969/descent

“We’ve lost the bulk of our forces already; any more and we won’t have enough to make a stand.”

But I guess that is not canon anymore. Clearly the words of the grand admiral of Kul Tiras is not canon enough for you.

Can’t wait to see how you spin this with your feelings

2 Likes

Yeah and then you look at the context and you realize they are talking about the forces they could use against azshara not the global war that is going on, nice try tho

I find it comical that apparently sending help for the Nightborne to make wine is somehow as important as DEFENDING THE ZANDALARI LANDS! I mean, come on… get your priorities straight. Zandalar is a set of three zones rich in various resources. Lumber, gold, magic, etc… Defending Zandalar should be second only to the defenses of Orgrimmar (the capital of the Horde), and Quel’Thalas (last Horde bastion in the Eastern Kingdoms).

2 Likes

Ah a good spin. Just one problem, the forces the alliance sent was not to fight against Azshara, they never knew that they were going to fight against Azshara. The forces they sent was to destroy what remained of the horde fleet, which would’ve actually ended the war.

" This war has cost us dearly, but victory will soon be in our grasp. What remains of the Horde fleet has departed Zuldazar and our spies say that the Banshee Queen’s hand sails at their helm. This is our chance, <name>! With one strike we can eliminate what remains of their fleet and rid Azeroth of Blightcaller’s filth once and for all!"

https://www.wowhead.com/quest=56043/send-the-fleet

1 Like

Not everything is about battles and war

Yeah and then in 8.3 jaina says the fleet is fine, so lol, wow its like nations have multiaple fleets in a navy.

So it is a retcon.

You still haven’t answered my big question though. Instead you are dancing around it.

Both sides were stretched too thin due to the war. Yet only one side refuses to accept formal help from an already proven ally because of it, while the other welcomes in a new faction no questions asked.

And yet you said that things don’t get magically fixed when a war ends. Clearly it does for one side.

But you can keep ignoring it.

5 Likes

I understand that, but again, if it comes to investing to reap maximum benefit in resources, Zandalar should literally be one of the highest priorities for the Horde.

Why would a new ally be more important than a older ally and whos attacking zanda the war is over, they still got blood troll problems?

According to the Vulpera recruitment quest, the Naga are still attacking Zandalar. Likewise, there’s a big difference between defending one of the Horde’s breadbaskets, and sending people to help make wine.

Ah, well they do all three so meh

It’s a Naga attack and the blood trolls current status is kind of weird. The war campaign where the Horde and Alliance fought in Nazmir prior to the Battle of Dazar’alor implied that the blood trolls had lost their holdings in Western Nazmir and then the Horde direhorn mount quest ends with us dealing with blood troll shenanigans in Western Nazmir.

3 Likes

How many mages are there capable of conjuring food? Enough to support the needs of an entire country as large as Stormwind, which was described as the largest of the human kingdoms? Conjured food may well be viable for a nation like Dalaran, which has a massive mage population and is more of a city-state at this point, but the logistics involved in doing the same for a kingdom like Stormwind, especially during a time of war when all hands were needed to protect the kingdom, is just plain insane.

1 Like

She is refering to the forces that went to nazjatar and were trapped in azshara’s trap for what i have seen, that was composed by some kultiran ships and the 7th legion. but not all of it, otherwise how you could explain that the alliance could send a considerable amount of forces to assault orgrimmar?

is not a retcon, kultiras did not lost all of their fleet and ships can be rebuilded.
meanwhile stormwind is recruiting farmers.
i think that is safe to say that kultiras is currently the strongest alliance nation and i bet they got a good chunk of gold that they sacked from the zandalari and confiscated from pirates.
they also united the nation under the proudmoores.

What? the naga are still a problem?
that’s hum… weird.

2 Likes

Right? You’d think Azshara’s defeat would’ve made them all withdraw back to the depths, but I suppose N’Zoth might be using them. We’ve no idea if they’re going after the Kul Tirans as well or not. To be honest, if they’re focusing on the Zandalari, it’s because the Zandalari navy is pretty much non-existent, while the Kul Tiran navy is still strong.

They are the team rocket indeed, not even after we “killed” azshara they give up, they have my respect for that.

points for perseverance!

3 Likes

I always assumed conjured food was made of mana and only provided some short term boost your ability to keep going rather than any actual sustenance. Like the future regeneration machines in Chrono Trigger.

2 Likes

I cannot for the life of me remember where I read it, but I do recall reading that conjured food was capable of being used for sustenance, which makes sense when you consider Dalaran is a nation that doesn’t really have a lot of farms or anything to provide it with a source of food. Maybe it was in the Chronicles?