"Vote to Kick" for Party Finder Promotes Negativity, Consider This Instead

[Ayukama-frostmourne]

I’ve been kicked out of a lot of dungeons recently, and I do think there needs to be some improvements, but when there is a lot of other options out there, it is hard to really suggest on what sort of improvements can be done when there is a lot of other options that I can do.

@Margirita-perenolde

I honestly wasn’t thinking of highly trained AI. I was thinking of basic yes/no AI.

Don’t matter if you have a higly trained AI or a brand new AI:

@Ayukama-frostmourne

AI can’t tell the difference between legitimate actions and false actions.

[Joggers-sargeras]

I think there’s generally always room for improvements, but the OP just sounds entitled. The point of the 30-minute time out is because it’s meant to be a safety net for other players that are queuing, so more people don’t have to deal with the problematic player again.
And if someone has been kicked from multiple groups within a short period of time, it’s generally the fault of the person being kicked.
Like most people, when I get kicked, I shrug it off, move on, find something else to do for the time. But honestly, I can’t even remember the last time I’ve been kicked from a group, it’s literally a group accountability thing.

[Margirita-perenolde (Margirita)]

The players would choose the condition by which the AI hunts. They would be given a selection on reasons to vote kick.

The AI would simply double check the dungeon records on if that reason was true or false. Then apply the de-buff punishment if true. If it is false, they would only be removed from group.

Not super complicated AI. AI can tell the difference between a high or low number.

Heck some add-ons can tell that.

[Branos-khazgoroth]

@Margirita-perenolde

if the feature was working correctly, we would not have repeated forums posts about it.

In a game with a playerbase the size of WoW? Of course there would be complaints. No matter what system they went with, working as intended or not.

[Joggers-sargeras]

Exactly, it’s working as intended.
It’s not even a big deal; it’s not a permanent thing.
Blizz already does a terrible job at allocating resources and time management. I don’t think the group vote kick process is worth the effort.
It just seems like a wild goose chase while the village is on fire.

[Karvalli-proudmoore]

@Margirita-perenolde

if the feature was working correctly, we would not have repeated forums posts about it

It’s crazy to me that you think:

1. A few forum posts are indicative of the systems performance for the thousands of other people and dungeon runs that don’t have forum posts about them
2. The forum posts aren’t just from bitter people who got kicked who want to vent about how they got kicked
3. The bitter people who got kicked didn’t deserve to get kicked

The feature is working as intended. People getting kicked in situation’s like the OP’s is how it’s intended to work.

[Margirita-perenolde (Margirita)]

It’s crazy to me that you think:

1. You don’t bother to read a single thing someone says and just assume their mental state and all opinions they have.
2. Thats its ok to insult them as if you have read what they had to say.
3. confuse what they have said with things other people have said and mash them all together in your mind and cherry pick points to insult them with.

A) Been in wow for years, seen a ton of stuff happen. I could tell you stories. Not basing anything off a few threads.

B) This feature is not working as intended. I was playing before it was implemented. You are just parroting what others have said at this point.

C) I haven’t been vote kicked in years. But I have seen them go down. I have occasionally had to do. I have seen both sides of this. There is a better way to do this.

If you want to play with me bud, at least take the time to read the things i have typed.

[Liolang-daggerspine]

@Troal-stormrage

Please change the 30 min cool down from being removed from a dungeon. People are abusing it.

Not abusing the feature since BLIZZARD has given them PERMISSION to behave like they do…but they ARE abusing the PLAYERS whose time they waste.

But yeah…the timeout needs to go…entirely

[Liolang-daggerspine]

@Margirita-perenolde

Thats its ok to insult them as if you have read what they had to say.

6. Will toss fits and play victim if someone were to reciprocate and treat them like they treat others…

[Ephestos-dalaran]

where is this abuse everyone is talking about ? i literally was kicked once in 3 years

[Liolang-daggerspine]

@Branos-khazgoroth

In a game with a playerbase the size of WoW? Of course there would be complaints. No matter what system they went with, working as intended or not.

your argument sounds like the guy who told me the other day “so lets just not have ANY rules since theyre always gonna be broken” lol

There are good rules and bad rules.
A BAD rule was Turning THIS group loose with the vote kick and THEN being too soft celled to stand up and say that they agree its being ABUSE…instead choosing the digusting path of saying it ‘cant be abused’ …well, I have a word in mind that would likely end me in trouble in here if posted it…but it rhymes with ‘outwardly’…

Blizzard KNOWS the kick is being MISUSED.
They just dont have the fortitude to at least SAY they know it is.

[Karvalli-proudmoore]

@Liolang-daggerspine

6. Will toss fits and play victim if someone were to reciprocate and treat them like they treat others…

I love all this attention you’re giving me Lio, I crave it, like I’m living rent free in your head

[Liolang-daggerspine]

@Joggers-sargeras

so more people don’t have to deal with the problematic player again.

IF that were the case then fine…but we have THREADS of evidence in here that this guy here is telling the truth about BOGUS kicks …something your side has been defending in here for 10 days or so.

@Evilbadguy-malganis

It’s just kicking, there doesn’t need to be any reason at all for me to vote kick you. If I don’t like the way your character looks, your name etc… I’ll just vote kick you as that is entirely within the rules of the game for me to do, so technically it’s not trolling as it’s a legitimate use of the in game feature. Sometimes I just randomly vote kick people in the group to see if it even goes through and 99% of the time it does, it’s not my fault blizzard decided to add the debuff to the entire run instead of just leaving at the start.

[Margirita-perenolde (Margirita)]

You’re not living rent free in my head BTW. That will be 2,300 per month please.

[Liolang-daggerspine]

youre ignored friend…Im not reading your drivel so get your attention from someone else

[Karvalli-proudmoore]

The way you’re replying to me and keep talking about me says otherwise

[Liolang-daggerspine]

@Margirita-perenolde

You’re not living rent free in my head BTW

lmao…is that what he thinks.
His presence in this thread isnt even a vapor.
We’re here to try to get the abusive kick changed…I dont even notice him or his group in these threads…theyre all on ignore.

[Karvalli-proudmoore]

@Liolang-daggerspine

I dont even notice him or his group in these threads…theyre all on ignore.

You’re reading every single one of our posts and talking about what we say in them

[Margirita-perenolde (Margirita)]

Shhhh SHHHH…pay rent first. Then talk.

(honestly, I could sure some extra income)

[Liolang-daggerspine]

@Troal-stormrage

Remove the 30 minutes and there is no punishment, and then it is more fair, but still not totally fair, it is still arbitrary.

The time out doesnt serve ANY purpose.

• it pointlessly punishes those who are victimized by this pack of ‘no cause’ kickers.
• it DOESNT punish the REAL trolls who will just hop on alts and ride out the timeout and troll other groups anyway

these folk really seem to lack the processing power to figure any of this out…