Vote to kick exploitation

[Tovi-moon-guard (Tovi)]

@Twileki-staghelm

Last time and only time I initiated a kick, all I did was type skdlsk or something random in the box.

Why did you kick this person?

[Twileki-staghelm]

It was years ago when I was booting a bad hunter. Group knew why though.

Oh this is juju, I forgot why I hopped on the hunter. Probably a transmog thing.

[Tovi-moon-guard (Tovi)]

@Twileki-staghelm

Group knew why though.

And this is the point I was going to make.

The dude was being a jerk so the group didn’t need to read the reason because they knew. I don’t think that’s proof that people don’t read.

[Twileki-staghelm]

Not always the case though. I read the reason when it’s not obvious. It’s not always gibberish though.

[Tovi-moon-guard (Tovi)]

No, of course not. I’m more than sure some vote kicks happen with the group not reading the reason why.

I’m just saying that if someone is being bad enough, the reason why is irrelevant. The group knows why. Like, the people that claim they were kicked for “tacos.” It’s like, ok where you really kicked for that or was the group just fed up with you and put a funny reason why?

[Inglewood-zuluhed]

@Tovi-moon-guard

dungeons as a revolving door where tanks and healers are joining then dropping

You inadvertently invented an awesome feature. Yes, this would be sick actually. Like a long-running dungeon/questline that people can join whenever. I think Rift does this.

[Balas-malfurion]

I’ve never been vote kicked but there sure been alot of attempts at others in my group saying afk when I see the dude moving towards us or other odd reasons. I just click no everytime. And This dudes comments are flagged and got no clue why. Are you really flagging shill?

[Tovi-moon-guard (Tovi)]

@Inglewood-zuluhed

You inadvertently invented an awesome feature. Yes, this would be sick actually. Like a long-running dungeon/questline that people can join whenever. I think Rift does this.

Huh no. Do you realize this is why they made the dungeon deserter buff trigger after the first boss when for years it wasn’t like that?

I guess there was a trinket that dropped for tanks on the first boss of Dawnbreaker. The original tank would kill the boss then leave then tanks that came in afterwards had no desire to stay. The groups didn’t move…

[Loveleigh-moon-guard]

I have absolutely been present for vote kicks that were nonsense and people going along with the crowd. They happen. But I haven’t seen it in years, and I refuse to believe it is

@Spellhaus-anubarak

routinely abused by players

Abuse happens, it’s not unheard of. But it’s not rampant by any means and I feel like the abusive kicks happen way less now than ten years ago, like when it was possible for a prima donna tank or healer to hold a group hostage until they did what the prima donna wanted.

As others have pointed out earlier, what remains isn’t easily solvable because you can only police human behavior so far. Sooner or later, you just get groups of jerks. If you find kicks happening for ‘abusive reasons’ all the time, then I think you need to find a new common denominator.

[Snozay-area-52]

@Spellhaus-anubarak

So many of us are friendly players with zero action against our account in 20 years, just trying to report bad behavior (and feel like someone at blizzard gives a damn).

This post reads as you throwing a tantrum because you were vote kicked.

You clearly are doing something wrong.

[Snozay-area-52]

@Tovi-moon-guard

I guess there was a trinket that dropped for tanks on the first boss of Dawnbreaker. The original tank would kill the boss then leave then tanks that came in afterwards had no desire to stay. The groups didn’t move…

It was the sac brood trinket in ara kara

[Liolang-daggerspine]

@Hedvig-sargeras

Oh come on. If the majority doesn’t want you there you’re gone. There’s no approved list of reasons. Deal with it.

exactly what I said…

@Liolang-daggerspine

so much for that social contract that blizzard doesnt bother to enforce and everyone ignores anyway

[Liolang-daggerspine]

@Siameren-lightnings-blade

I’ve been kicked from one single dungeon in the 18.5 years that I’ve been playing this game, and it was 100% my fault and justified.

and?
I saw so many bogus kicks when I healed a lot more that it made me quit healing for the malcontents.

So…WHOSE experience takes precedence here?

[Mirasol-mannoroth (Mirasol)]

@Liolang-daggerspine

so much for that social contract that blizzard doesnt bother to enforce and everyone ignores anyway

The social contract means they can’t use language that includes profanity, masked profanity, slurs, insults, etc.

It does NOT mean someone has to play with someone they don’t want to be with. Using the KICK function has nothing to do with the Social Contract.

But you know all that.

[Tovi-moon-guard (Tovi)]

@Snozay-area-52

It was the sac brood trinket in ara kara

Really? I could have sworn it was Dawnbreaker and people leaving after the first boss is why the moved the dungeon deserter debuff back to the first boss.

[Liolang-daggerspine]

@Kittychoatic-bladefist

Reasons (actual reason not me listing reasons)

Bad transmog
Stupid name
Furrys vote trump

yeah that sounds about right.

Ive seen a long list of them, the best being when the person has done nothing warranting a kick and the reason is some racist, bigoted, phobic garbage that has nothing to do with the game.

I love the "i dont see any kicks’ jokers who compulsively fill these threads
They dont see any kicks…but say it needs to be more limited and then, holy geezus, they’ll need to be able to kick 1000 times a day…you know…just in case…even though theyve only seen ONE kick in 15 years…lmao

[Snozay-area-52]

@Tovi-moon-guard

Really? I could have sworn it was Dawnbreaker and people leaving after the first boss is why the moved the dungeon deserter debuff back to the first boss.

Yeah sacbrood drops off of the first boss in ara kara and was bis for everyone.

So people would Que up kill the first boss and leave.

It was faster to do that if you had a tank friend and you both qued together over and over.

[Snozay-area-52]

@Mirasol-mannoroth

But you know all that.

I could make an argument they don’t.

[Tovi-moon-guard (Tovi)]

Ty for the clarification.

[Loveleigh-moon-guard]

@Liolang-daggerspine

They dont see any kicks…but say it needs to be more limited and then, holy geezus, they’ll need to be able to kick 1000 times a day…you know…just in case…even though theyve only seen ONE kick in 15 years…lmao

I vote no on the vote-kick attempts that do occur unless I really think the player in question is impeding our progress significantly. And ‘doing a dungeon closer to normal speed than blitz speed’ doesn’t count.

I’m not for kicking more people. I’m just not seeing the behavior where this is an epidemic, and in the absence of any kind of evidence, all I can draw on is my personal experience.