Voidweaver Damage

This has become a big problem and the damage needs to be tuned way down. Voidweaver Disc is basically 2/3 of a dps while doing just as much if not more healing throughput than other healers. It’s one thing if it’s just a broken 2’s spec, but it has become rampant in 3s and shuffle as well. It’s currently being played in the ongoing AWC as well.

They gutted mistweaver’s kick build. I think it’s time to do the same to Voidweaver.

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Voidweaver is more balance than kick mw, they at least have to cast and have weaknesses.

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Doesn’t matter, the throughput and damage is blatantly overtuned right now.

I wanna say there’s no way they’ll keep it like this but I fear we won’t get any more changes til the next xpac.

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yeah they really put themselves in a vulnerable spot with that 0.4 sec cast

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Everyone complaining about them should be forced to heal 100 shuffles with one.

To the OP, you’re in luck! As resto shaman you don’t even need to rely on your dps to handle it. Grounding, wind shear, hex, lasso, static move and root. R shams are better than both specs of healer priest.

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Don’t worry I play a Priest too.

I know from experience playing as it, with it, and against it at 2k-2.2 mmr in 2s and shuffle on multiple classes.

Void is definitely very broken in 2s I don’t think there’s any arguing that. It’s also still very strong in every other bracket, stronger imo than Kickweaver ever was. I’d argue Oracle is still a bit better in high rated shuffle/3s. Representation doesn’t mean everything, but Disc overall is the highest represented healer spec in 2s, 3s, and shuffle at every mmr threshold.

And that said I wouldn’t put Rsham head and shoulders above disc, holy, or pres. Not at all. Those 4 specs are all pretty close in strength, depending on bracket and comp.

Either way Void is stronger than Kickweaver ever was, and the damage they can put out is ridiculous when adding in their healing throughput as well.

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2s is a meme though. There are specs that are dog water in 2s but good in 3s. They don’t balance around 2s for a reason.

As a caster in any 3s format, I’d rather face Voidweaver any day that’s strong vs a strong fistweaver. An extra kick plus micro CC is toxic af. Stopping a voidweaver is much easier than stopping fistweaver damage when they were strong.

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I’m literally saying they’re super strong in every bracket, and very broken in 2s.

Ofc you would rather the ranged vs a fistweaver cleave in your face as a caster. Doesn’t make the fact that Voidweaver is almost like playing triple dps with its damage any more balanced.

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And I’m saying VW’s are infinitely easier to shut down than fistweaver ever was. The least mobile spec in game has to sit still and spam a casted spell in order for it to work. Any CC or kicks or even just focusing the priest during the rift go puts them severely on the back foot.

Like, yes, if you allow the turret to turret, it’s going to hurt. If I was playing a game in a must win scenario on disc, I’d be taking Oracle every single time.

is it a real cast? because it’s so short if i shear at 65% it just cogs

prob be fine if it did 85% less damage or if the cast bar was 1.7s same damage

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Lol. I tried Voidweaver and both my healing and my damage were terrible. What’s the secret? It’s not just using Mind Blast and spamming Void Blast, right?

probably bad gear

you want legit full haste afaik

I only have 3 green items. But I’m full mastery. If I switch to Haste > Versatility, will it make a big difference?

night and day yeah

Lmao no
Any comps that can kite in verdant/draconic can easily shut down fistweaver

Good luck kicking a 0.3-0.4 sec cast

Ya so they can explode the rift manually when when they get cc’d during rift and top entire team instantly

No

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Seems fine to me. From what I’ve seen only healing specs struggling are mw.

Everything else is pretty equal.

I mean if you kick them while they’re casting damage that they use to heal themselves then they can’t heal. Fistweaver is different because it doesn’t have to cast and they’re lacking a weakness.

I do it all the time :man_shrugging:t2:

It’s not like they are randomly doing it. You know when it’s coming and they spam it. 0.3 seconds is also a gross exaggeration.

Damage disc is disc priest main playstyle

it’s not the same as MW.

The damage to healing feels great, the damage can pump but it’s not BIG numbers. It’s a lot of fast damage if geared full haste.

Counterplay:
Line of sight. It’s that simple. Move the fight so the priests line of sight is obstructed, make the priest have to move.
We have to stand still and cast… adapt to the fast speed and pattern of cast to get ready to kick.
ShadowTree is all you need to kick. If you want to skill check your healer, let the mind blast go out then kick the 1st:2nd void blast to shut down the void window.