đŸ“© "Void" the Silver Covenant

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They did not have “a good link” to the Alliance. Here are some facts for you:

  1. When the High elves needed aid against the Amani trolls, the Alliance refused to help them- UNLESS they taught the humans magic. Yes, you read that right. They were going to let the elves die, if they didn’t pass on a knowledge that was THEIR birth right- to a selfish people who clearly didn’t deserve it. This is what made Anasterian resent the Alliance. And he had every right too.
  2. When the High elves repaid that oath, by aiding the Alliance later on- The Alliance forces left the elves to fight most of the incursions on their own, which resulted in the inability to defend. Their forests and cities were burned, with only themselves to fight. When the Alliance came back- They took credit for the elves survival. Literally-- Even giving them ZERO credit for their military prowess. Many lives were lost, because the Alliance used them as meat shields. And that was when Anasterian said “Nope. I’m done. Go choke on your own saliva.”

The Alliance treated the elves like trash or cannon fodder. That’s not what I call “A good link”.

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Unfortunately that ship has long, loooong since sailed. People were speculating on how well they were going to sell the “crack team of blood elves” story for the void elves. Some, including myself, thought that the Silver Covenant elves were either going to perish in the battle for Teldrassil or were going to be corrupted in an expedition with Alleria or something. What we got was much, much worse.

And to make up for it, all we have are a couple of dialogue boxes from Umbric during the war campaign emphatically trying to convince me that their whole storyline isn’t a complete joke. Still, I’m sure that the faction will come to its own own day, much like the draenei did.

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Uhhh
 The Alliance didn’t exist back then.

What? Quel’Thalas sent a token force to support the Alliance when asked to repay the Blood Debt. The full armies of Quel’Thalas were in Quel’Thalas when the Orcs invaded.

Garithos treated the Blood Elves like that, but the High Elves have been respected within the Alliance since the Alliance formed. Try divorcing the race from the nation of Quel’Thalas.

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It was the Alliance of Lordaeron. Are you wanting to start a debate that “That Alliance and current Alliance, are two different things?” Because that’s not a debate I’m going to have. Not when I constantly hear (as a Horde player) that “The Orcish Horde and current Horde, are the exact same thing”. It’s hypocritical.

At first. Until Alleria showed that the Amani was also involved.

“Blood elves— but High elves—”- They are the exact same race. Stop acting like they aren’t. The only difference is political and cultural (since Alliance traitor elves have no culture of their own and adapted human culture. So they are no different than humans). Semantics is arguing over legitimacy, simply based on a name. Which is really what this is and you can argue with yourself on that point. If the Alliance elves were High elves (culturally), they would be living in Quel’Thalas with us but they aren’t /debate.

That all said: I have no idea why you replied to be honest. Because you didn’t make any valid points against what I said. Either that, or you made up something that isn’t actually true.

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Lordaeron didn’t exist back then either. There was only one Human Kingdom, Strom.

Which didn’t happen until the Orcs had already invaded Quel’Thalas.

I like to give people the benefit of the doubt and try to clear up their confusion.

That said, High Elves and Blood Elves are two separate ethnicities within the same biological race. Not unlike how Americans and Europeans are still Human. Or French and German.

While there is only one Kingdom ruled by the Thalassian Race (Quel’Thalas), that does not mean all High Elves come from said Kingdom. There have been High Elves living in Dalaran since the Kingdom was founded, which was over 2,700 years ago from the present timeline. These High Elves, along with others who remained loyal to the Alliance after the Second War, never took on the name of Blood Elf, remained loyal to the Alliance, and have been respected members of the Alliance.

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Guys, discuss High Elves on the High Elf Megathread

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Or just accept this teams answer on high elves, keep discussion of them in the megathread, and otherwise shut up about it.

The current Dev team made their stance clear. That won’t change until a different dev team shows up. These threads are just annoying at this point.

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Since you are using a real life analogy, let’s use one that is actually correct (according to Wow).
It would be like two people of the same race (biologically) and the same ethnicity- that up and one day says: I can’t live in the same city as you, because I disagree with your political views. And I also want to adopt a different culture than I was born in. And thus, they became different ethnicities when they joined the Alliance.

It’s like two Irish men, both born and raised in Ireland and one says: I don’t agree with you being a Christian and I am bored of living like this. So I am going to America. And then that Irish man going around in American and telling everyone how Ireland is full of fakes. American is the real Irish culture.

To say that people can not live together and have differing views and even differing cultures, is absurd.

The reason it had to be done this way, is because this is a two faction game. So alliance traitors can not still remain in Quel’Thalas, which was now a Horde state. That means, that Alliance traitors are no longer High elven.

But I am not going to derail the thread anymore. Anymore Helf discussion, can be taken to the Mega thread.

As stated above.

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I think (imo) the Dev team haven’t touch on the remaining High Elf population because maybe they have something plan in the future, thought turning all under the Void Elf as a sub-faction would probably solve it. :thinking:

Thought, I thoght the Void elf where transform against their will? Are does ELf actually speeding this thing? :scream:
Because um, that’s literally worst that Fel, I mean Sargeras Created the Burning Legion endless army TO FIGHT THE VOID!? :exploding_head:
Oh
 my if this is true we might as well hand over a Void Elf army to the Old Gods just like what happen to the Felsworn! :sweat_smile:

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It would be odd for them to embrace the void after one of the main reasons some of them left the BE is because of their opposition to the use of Fel (even though they have warlocks still) and draining mana from living beings. Void is kind of that on roids.

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That wasn’t all there was too it. Veressa left to escort a human male (Rhonin) and just followed him to Dalaran and forgot that her people existed. Didn’t even bother going back to save any of them. And then “flails” when she finds out that they actually survived.

It really does show that parallel. Where the High elves can become tainted and hated for it, shunned but a High elf can become tainted and yet loved, accepted for it. One person vs an entire nation. Boggles my mind.

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Omg my god I hope this is not righ
 If this happens IM GOING TO BE SO #$%%^ mad at BLIZZ! :rage:
You mean to tell me that they killed of my ONLY true king Keal’thas Sunstrider betray BY the Alliance in the first place, then kill as a traitor for desperately trying to find a cure for their people becoming himself a mana addict
and tainting him as a traitor

Only to have Alliance have Void Elf and spreading it to the remaining High Elf? Oh
 my god that be soooo bad
 on so many levels
 If becomes true I honestly be so mad!! :face_with_symbols_over_mouth:

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Yes. 100% true. All of it is true.

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Yeah I don’t understand it. Fel tainted people can be Paladins but void tainted people cant for “reasons”

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The time for this sort of thing is long past. If Blizz had been smart about it the Void Elves would have come from the Silver Covenant in the first place.

The recruitment scenario should have been something along the lines of Alleria going to assist the Silver Covenant as they investigate a strange magic coming from Mcguffinville. SC finds ethereals doing weird voidy things, try to stop them, and one unfortunate accident later most of the SC find themselves as Void Elves.

This would have:

  1. Given the Void Elves some much needed connection to the Alliance. They would literally be the same Elves that have been fighting for the Alliance since tBC 
 albeit with a tragic twist.
  2. Would have given them some actual lore other than “oh yeah, random group of Blood Elves that you’ve never heard of but are TOTALLY on your side 
 for reasons”.
  3. Would have eliminated High Elves from ever being a possibility and stifled most of the clamoring for them to be an allied race
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What the %$(_^(_%(&%!!! :hot_face::rage::face_with_symbols_over_mouth:

I’M done, I’M SO DONE with this
 I hope I get to beat the crap out of these 3 Windrunner sisters of disaster and Jeina as a Bonus!

Sigh**

Self reflecting thoughts

(Calm down Ozzie, calm down
 Only adults try to put logic in to a game
its just a bad story game you haveppen to love
 calm the f&^* down Oz.)

IM just going to play the game, need to cool down a bit


Also I agree with you Sharana

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This was the big ticket item on the Feedback a lot of us were giving for Void Elves from the moment they were announced, but it was completely ignored. Probably was too late to alter the recruitment scenario I suppose.

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No, it’s too late for this. What Blizzard SHOULD have done was have a Void Lord break out of Dalaran Prison or one hunting down Aleria and the SC try but fail to help and are corrupted before Aleria + the hero save them. Rather than a story like that Blizzard gave us Blood Elf traitors, meaning they probably will make them an Ally race in the future or will continue their story.

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Personally I think it’s a terrible idea, I think the void elves story is not strong enough to support anymore after the implementation.

I think those that really just want High Elves just need to accept the fact Blizzard doesn’t want High Elves to be playable.

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This whole “suggestion” is a thinly veiled request to remove the largest and most prominent High Elf organization (and one of the biggest reasons for playable Alliance High Elves) by converting them into Void Elves. In short, it’s an anti-High Elf thread no matter how you try and dress it up.

To which I say, no. It’s a terrible idea. And, I see this “suggestion” for it really is.

I’d have more “impolite” things to say but I’d prefer to keep my trust level 3 status thank you very much.

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