And maybe there are more threads often seen about a particular race request (Void Elves maybe?) but if they’re made by different individuals (not toons/alts/accounts) then it may just be there’s that much of a popular demand for it.
Mythic version of the Eagletalon set gives you red eyes and everything. Ride on the Risen Mare/Witherbark Direwing and confuse yourself into riding into a Horde outpost.
I know right, I’m usually a pretty big support for most customization options for most races even if it’s not my cup of tea so someone acting like I don’t whether they like what I am supportive of or not just because it’s not what they want me to be supportive of is pretty silly.
Dear, if you are NOt my mother and you are NOt paying for my sub, then guess what? You can´t tell me what to do.
Don´t like my posts? Easy, put me on ignore, problem solved!!
Don´t come here to tell me about your “vast” knowledge of the lore when you people make basic mistakes like saying “BeLvEs DrAiNeD fEl”… who were debunked basically in TBC. I don´t come to tell you people how your “Void” customizations must go (I´m simply telling you that in the case you get your Belf clone appearance we must get at least something exclusive AND that truly represents the lore of the race -no, the Belves are NOT a “Light oriented race”… do you see Lor´themar or Rommath or the trainers or the average Belf NPC that is NOT Liadrin saying BS about the “Holy Light”? No? Good. That happens precisely because the race is NOT culturally focused on the “Light”, they just weaponized it, nothing else), so apply some sense of ACTUAL courtesy and honesty and refrain from making suggestions born of either selfishness or bad faith, period.
I don´t mess up with your stuff, ergo, don´t mess up with mine.
Calling up your deficiencies is NOt bullying dude. Is telling you the truth to your face, not my problem if you don´t have the mental acuity to actually listen.
If you believe Liadrin making cameos = lore development for the Blood Elf race, you probanly need to imporve in the reading comprehension skills, cause that was NOT thge message on the story.
Please take them, they are worthless, useless ANd don´t even reflect the actual lore stance of the Blood Elf race.
IF you get tattoos, feel free to get ALL the Alleria esque ones you like for ALL your skin options. Runic on the other hand, should be Blood Elf exclusive AT LEAST in regards to skin colors (I mean people… if the “pink” skins are implemented in Velves to RP a Helf, me thinks the runic tattoos -that are NOT a High Elf thing; were never shown in official art of pre Third War High Elves and weren´t even in the non canonical RPGs explained as a “High Elf” but an actual Blood Elf development post Zombie crisis- should only be available with blue skin tones).
And no gree for you dude… that got overriden by the Void -reason why none of your NPCs kept the residual Fel green effect in the eyes-.
The mix does NOt mean the elves are getting Lightforged dude… fact is, as per canon lore the golden eyes -the ONLY Holy Light esque customization thing- are NOT a byproduct of no Sunwell, but of individual devotion. Fact is as per canon lore, that Belves are just as invested in the Holy Light as they were before, the only actual change was them weaponizing that cosmological energy (no seriously, go back and actually PAY attention to the lore. Go and see the HUGE difference in how actual Lightforged cultures live around that cosmological source while the Belves pretty much ignore it for the most part. The ONLY one that sprouts stuff about “muh Light” is Liadrin… not even the other Blood Knights, JUSt Liadrin and no one else).
All the races already have Ombre hair dude.
I want Blood Magic based customizations, hard for you people to come here and try to poach those at least.
Dude, the problem with this is that posters WILL come to demand all and every Belf customization precisely under the convenient argument that “Void elves were Blood elves, ergo gimme gimme!!”… under this scenario, Blood Elves will NEVER have anything truly exclusive to call their own cause people will ALWAYS come here demanding whatever they get for their Velves.
I mean, let´s look at an example:
See? GIMME, GIMME!!!.. so tell me, what could we get that people won´t QQ and bully the devs for? Cause the way I see it NOTHING will be ever exclusive for the Belf model based upon this faulty premise.
I mean, we have that same poster demanding UNDEAD thalassian elf customizations in the Alliance… when short of an expac ago they were killing the aforementioned Undead thalassian elves. And when UNDEAD elves have existed in the lore AND in the game in the Horde since Vanilla ffs.
the same megathread that has the same 5 people posting like since a year ago? That thread, Brae?
Cause we see some VERY ridiculous stuff in there too. (I mean Mace and Ravenmoon took the idea of crapping on Belves towards a whole new level in there), the less we check there, the better.
Feel free to put me on ignore if it bothers you so much… but don´t come here pretending to reduce the Belf race thematics and lore to “Lightforged” -which is NOT correct and an actual missinterpretation on the lore if not outright ignorance on it- or “Fel” -which, again, is NOT correct and an actual ignorance in the lore. The Fel was NEVER a thing as far as Azerothian Belves were concerned (why do you think they were horrified at what Kael became, hmm?)-.
You people come here saying you “deserve” to get proper tools to RP an Alliance affiliated High Elf, ergo, the right to EXPAND on your RP chances. Then why, pray tell, do you come here to REDUCE the Blood elf themes to simple “Lightforged Fel infused dudes”, hmm? Why the haste in REDUCING the RP tools of the Blood elf players, when you people complain over US trying to “limit” your RP horizon? Why acting towards us in the same way you accuse us of acting to you, you hypocrites?
That is the reason why I am NOT gonna “stay quiet” nor “calm down”. Go try to silence someone else, or at least silence yourself if you pretend to act in such a manner.
You don´t have to like the Belf race, but at the very least have the common sense and the decency of not acting contrarian to your own arguments. We don´t ask you to like the Belf race, we simply ask you to NOT try to reduce it to two rando “themes” for arbitrary reasons that hurts more US the actual fans of the race, period.
Your hostility is unappreciated and ultimately doesn’t help support your side of the aisle. It’s quite evident that most want these options and us blood elves would get new things too. If you are dissatisfied, make some suggestions or a thread of your own and we would absolutely adore supporting it. Continue your great work supporting our cause, we love and appreciate it.
Just comes across to me as someone upset we don’t support more poaching of BE options which I do take issue with and am glad to give my opposition on as someone who was happy for the current RP tools when they were first announced because I formerly felt so sad for HE fans
I was in a battleground but I fully support you expressing your thoughts and your opinions like anyone else, don’t let them silence you or bully you into not.
Your personal opinion is NOT a reflection of this board dude, leave the entitlement in the proverbial door. Cause as far as I am concerned, you certainly don´t speak for anyone but yourself.
How many “new things” you people won´t run ASAP and cry for, I wonder? No seriously, some of you reached literal underground and keep digging when you use “goth” as an excuse to poach FORSAKEN stuff for the Alliance.
What I ask for is for you guys to put a LIMIT. IF you pretend to be taken seriously and NOT as the proverbial mouse asking for cookies, then you can start by putting a LIMIT on the petitions. Make an actual show of GOOD FAITH, cause as far as I am concerned, you are only interested in poaching ANYTHING you like from out side AND reducing our themes while at it. And this is quite the malicious behaviour, quite the rude behacviour, quite the actual hostile behaviour.
If they would actually show some inclination to stop at one point, I think most of us would not oppose as strongly as we do, The problem is they seem hungrier than a stellar sized Black Hole: they want ALL. And to justify this, they actually come here to suggest a REDUCTION in blood elf thematics.
Sorry NOt sorry the Belves have a decade of advantage in regards to lore development. Sorry NOT sorry both the arcane AND the “ranger” themes are still pretty much alive and current in Belf society as per current canon lore. Sorry NOT sorry Belves have touched upon themes like Blood Magic -which is basically the most Fel-esque part of it-, while actually disregarding actual Lightforging or Fel dependant magic research (no dudes, just like DKs are canonically part of the Ebon Blade, Demon Hunters are canonically affiliated to the Illidari and are NOT reflections from their races but of their CLASS fantasy -based on a hero of the RTS /mindblown). Sorry NOT sorry I want actual decent representation for my favorite race, big enough to ecompass ALL the lore surrounding the race and not merely two niche themes people mentions for purely selfish reasons and/or because it´s convenient for their agenda.
Very much appreciated, but don´t worry. The “arguments” in these threads on GD have nothing on the actual discussion I usually have in SF (now THERE you can´t go and say “goth = Alliance” cause muh playable model and get away with it. there you either prove AND support with actual quotes the stuff or your “idea” gets torn apart, period).
Sometimes we put threads that don´t get derailed into “muh Teldrassil, erase the Hurde!!” too!! (I admit this becomes a problem from time to time, but lately it has become less ocurrent).
Sure I would love to give my reasoning for why I no longer support further HE options on the Alliance when the fantasy is already Horde, I actually think my insight on the issue as someone who used to support the HE community makes me unique in the fact the whole woe is me “you guys just don’t want us to have more options” really doesn’t work on me.
I think the TLDR version of it would be at some point you can’t be the only side that gets heard, and BE fans and people who value visual distinction being heard as well. I applaud the RP tools as is but object to anything else being done to appease a side thats been more than accounted for, don’t forget you can always wear a helmet or be bald if you really feel visual distinction for your character doesn’t matter but for the rest of us Blizzard included, the hair was left to the actual playable HE race.
No seriously, THIS is the actual source of contention, at least personally speaking. I would NOT mind Velves getting their “Belf clone” IF whatever the devs give us to DIFFERENTIATE both races stays Horde exclusive. Cause is very sad, depressing and hopeless that scenario depicting these same people asking for our stuff even then!!
Sorry, their dollars aren´t “worth more” than mine. And that means that, like any other customer, Belf fans DESERVE to get some modicum of differentiation in their model. And this differentiation MUST reflect the rich lore surrounding the race, not merely something that wasn´t even a thing in the very expac the race was implemented in the game (TBC) OR stuff based upon the behaviour of ONE Blood elf character (no seriously, guys, go back and compare the attitude of Vranesh and Liadrin and come here to tell us the Belves are totes Lightworshippers of the worst caliber that simp the “Holy Light” as strongly as an actual Lightforged Draenei. And I WILL either prove you liars, or direct you to improve in the reading comprehension skills).
Have you been ignoring what the pro side has been saying this entire time? We’ve stated our limit multiple times. I for one have made it clear in all of these threads that the only things left that Void Elves should get from Blood Elves are the hair colors, hair styles, and jewelry. I have not once seen someone that legitimately cares about either side ask for having their two classes (demon hunter and paladin), nor have I seen the same for the eyes.
And no squat do blood elves deserve their own unique stuff, we have made it clear too plenty of things that could be offered to them. It isn’t our job to guess for you what you want though.
Then maybe you’ve not been here long enough to see behavior patterns where what you claim simply isn’t true because like Magnificent pointed out I think we see the patterns.
It still doesn’t change the fact that the HE community has been heard twice over and you’re not the only community with a request that matters, and your request is in opposition of people who value visual distinction there is no wiggle room any longer with what’s been given to you already.
I think, since we can only guess into Blizzard’s inner workings, that when they made that blog post of sharing those additional customizations, as well as coming up with new specific BE customizations (because VE didn’t get anything new what they got were BE skin tones and shared Eye color options of the purple to blue spectrum, no actually new asset that didn’t exist beforehand).
They did exactly what you’re stating here. They gave the one side (VE) - BE skin tones, purple/blue eye colors, and then to further the BE fans appreciation of visual distinction they gave new unique BE customization options - new hairstyles, ear size options, new eye color options (one eye gold one eye blind etc), new hair colors (caramel, navy blue/black, DK colors), new male facial hair, new necklaces/earrings/bracelets/arm jewelry.
That’s how Blizzard decided to handle ‘unique visual distinction’ per se. Because all those customizations in bold for BE, the Void Elves don’t have.
And most often for VEs I am seeing people ask for hair colors (does not need to BE hair colors - there’s many shades of blonde/brown/black in game), ear size options, and tattoos like Alleria’s.
Though I have not been following the conversation much so maybe there are those asking for the unique BE customizations given in SL, but I haven’t followed the more recent topic chains.
I just find it strange to continue posting as if BEs got nothing unique at all, they received many unique customizations, yet it is being painted as if VEs took ‘essentially everything’ and BEs received nothing.
EDIT: Sorry forgot to clarify my point. My point is that in the instance of ‘being listened to’ what Blizzard went and did is give more unique things to one side, after deciding what to share for the moment.
Blizzard did not deny one side from receiving any one thing. That’s probably why for BE fans who are asking to deny certain customizations to VEs - it did not work, because Blizzard decided their way of maintaining uniqueness between the two is simply giving more unique customization.