Void elves can look like blood elves but not vise versa

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@Muir-kelthuzad

If those specific hair colors don’t break the themes of the race then that’s what I’m saying, those hair colors are fluid and not thematic of any given race.

It seems to me that that would depend on the race and its lore.

I wouldn’t expect a Tauren to be… lets say Night Elf green.

But to be a darker shade of Auburn red? Sure.

The void elves as they are currently are affected by the void so I can understand people not wanting to see natural coloration on them. Even with the skin tones the idea that a Void Elf is untouched by the Void seems odd given their lore.

Alleria was made differently and without Blizzard showing and stating how new ones are made we cannot assume much of anything about the process.

So we’re left with the introduction scenario. Nothing there shows a likelihood of natural hair tones. (or skin tones)

@Muir-kelthuzad

Draenei for instance already had brown/blonde/white options and their hair colors added were dark purple/green. They didn’t continue to receive the same tone of colors that already exist for them.

Which is my point. The hair colors every race received were ones they did not have - they were not simply the existing hair color spectrum. Like Blood Elves received a chocolate brown, caramel hair color alongside the unlocked DK hair colors. They didn’t continually receive different shades of Blonde or Red.

Sure, but none of those really break any mold to either of those races.

They have no lore implications.

They don’t really seem, to me anyways, to break any themes for them. Just expand them.

@Muir-kelthuzad

Hair colors added to each race were explicitly to give them a variety that wasn’t already in place. Expecting Void Elves to continue to gain purple/green/blue shades of hair color wouldn’t make sense since they already have those options available.

Yeah I agree, but that doesn’t mean they would be natural hair colors. Expansion of the Void Elf colorations by lore would suggest they’re going to be modified to a void tint at best.

(Again this is my opinion. I’m not trying to shove nothing down you throat)

@Lore-herod

Hair color isn’t a lore based issue either though…

It is though.

Blizzard has not yet implemented a system where hair color is shared across the board without limit.

They specifically limit it by what race you’re on.

@Lore-herod

I’ve showed you before how hair dye does effectively exist in the lore

Oh I know it does. But as I said just above, until that’s implemented across the board its not what Blizzard has done, nor should we expect it as an excuse.

(Also I just noticed you’re on Herod server and I ALMOST made a toon there just yesterday… lol )

@Lore-herod

I have told you before how magical infusion doesn’t always caused your body to change even a bit.

And I don’t disagree with you on that.

But I do with the Void Elves themselves. Until we have some actual lore to explain how new ones are made the only canon lore we have is in the Void Elf introduction. Alleria herself is currently unique.

Whether I think its likely or not that others are following that path or that a new ritual has been made is just an assumption.

@Lore-herod

Claiming this debate is about lore is just wrong, and I’d have a lot better time remaining civil if those that didn’t want the options to happen just admitted that it’s exclusively about visual distinction even though I disagree with it.

I don’t think it isn’t about lore.

For me at least it almost always has been. (Sometimes my own preferences do come up)

I understand feeling attacked about the visual distinction argument, though I don’t agree its an attack as much. I very much believe that Lann and others are very genuine in their concerns there.

Everyone draws their lines at different places. And while we do not have to agree, we also don’t have to let others get to us. This is about elves in an online game. One no doubt we all feel strongly for. That doesn’t mean its worth getting immensely bent out of shape over.

So lets say that you’re right and they’re exclusively against it for the visual distinction and that alone.

Why do they get to decide if you are civil or not? Should you not make that choice on your own?

I very much don’t agree with Muir here. I’ve disagreed with Lann and Ariel and Naughty in many cases.

I cannot stand Cezol.

Yet here we are having a fairly relaxed discussion about our views. (ok less Cezol and me I just ignored him instead. But even that is a matter of trying to keep civil.)

You cannot control others. Keep yourself in check and others will follow in discussion. Its worked for me for more than a year.