nothing wrong with that. just be honest
i mean when your fanfictions contradict lore and developers its just comical and disingenuous. be honest is all im saying
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None of what has been requested has contradicted the lore.
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I didnât particularly want the skin tones⊠Fenelons skin tone is a result of me hitting random when I made him and thought it looked good. His belf version looks good too.
Also I occasionally switch his tone to blue for funsies. His in âcanonâ skin tone is obsidian⊠based off of a void option Silverleaf mocked up long ago for void elves.
How shallow of you.
You mean⊠congratulating the high elf folk for getting what they wanted? Oh no, how dare I be kindâŠ
I canât control what others talk about in that thread and your extremely specific qualifications for what is and isnât a matter that can be talked about isnât important to me.
We have on many occasions told people to take their high elf requests to Sandrinarâs/Loreâs thread or one of the many high elf threads and to focus on the Void Aspect within my thread. A fact that has made me a bit of a pariah among some of the Void Elf communities.
You know nothing at all about me Mags. You havenât listened and you regularly take only what you want to hear from anything at all.
I have been.
One day when you actually listen to my words and stop putting your own viewpoint on them you might see that.
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âThey start out as a small group,â Danuser continues. âBut itâs natural as other elves have found out about them â elves who are interested in new sources of magic, power, or opportunities â would see if they could undergo a similar process. Theyâre not ⊠recruiting , necessarily, but theyâre open to those who show a similar interest.â
Oh look another post mis-using what danuser said. What am i to do!
/sarcasm
Read what you post, he directly says âundergo a similar proccessâ
As well as they are not actively recruiting. Just allowing them to study if they choose to.
Currently in lore the void elf transformation is not shown to be replicated, although most VE fans do want it shown in game, like fen here.
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same that locus walker said about umbric and his followers âsimilar proccessâ than Alleria, SIMILAR not the same
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I sensed that change was destined to find Alleria Windrunner, but I did not anticipate that her kin would undergo a similar transformation.
yet you see alleria a completely normal high elf while umbric is not
Theyâre not ⊠recruiting , necessarily, BUT theyâre open to those who show a similar interest.â
nice âbutâ there.
you the ones will argue if blizzard add broken customizations to the draenei calling em ârp toolsâ even when theres lore and npc saying otherwise.
any actual souce of this because all i see is words from you but not a single source of anything
something people says to belittle high looking void elves is they bleed purple, if they werenât void elves why their blood is purple?
they are in a spot where denying their voidiness make them high elves and blood elves, and saying their customizations are canon will still make antis angry. pick your poison.
Took a look, Its all mostly recent data or far back.
I think I got the 10% by looking at Alliance only before hand. But that most recent one says theyâre 10% now total Alliance, so I must have misremembered.
The place I used to use is clearly defunct now, but it had an option to look at it over a set period of time. Wish the currently available ones did. I want to see where the bumps occur.
I suspect like you said the biggest one would be the reputation restriction being removed, but Iâd bet each customization pass has had a bump as well as folk make a few more toons.
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Pandaren always made it kind of a moot point honestly.
There have been High Elves in the Alliance post Warcraft 3 since vanilla WoW.
Canât have green or gold eyes. Canât have a lot of hairstyles. No jewelry, etc.
Theyâve got tentacles and extra skin tones.
You didnât even need something to make it a moot point, there was never anything wrong with the idea of having identical races on both sides. There were always visual indicators to show who was on your faction and who was on the opposing one.
And even with 100% copied customization on both sides of that race, you would always have a massive number of possible customization combinations to where youâd likely never see someone with the same character as you. Thatâs also not even taking into account the possible transmog combinations that youâd be running into that would be covering up the appearance too.
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I always imagined it had something to do with internal politics. Someone on the WoW dev team really didnât want it to happen. Jeremy Feasel explicitly states theyâre the most requested feature in 2018, but I imagine they knew it for a long time before that.
Doesnât change that the bulk of the High Elves followed their leaders and joined the Horde because of what the alliance did to them. shrug Blizzard caved to player demands after saying that âthe nearly extinct race mostly banded together and what you see in game isnât very representative of the world at largeâ doesnât change that.
The Majority of High Elves post WC3 would have stayed with the high elves that renamed themselves Blood Elves. Those that didnât join the Horde for obvious reasons involving WC2 would have stayed in periphery factions that were allied to the alliance but ultimately would consider themselves not a part of the Alliance at large. The Alliance in general did them wrong several times when they were most vulnerable as a people and it is completely reasonable why these elves donât just sign up with the alliance in general.
Itâs almost like itâs a nuanced problem and an elf can hate the alliance while still remaining âfriendlyâ with their membersâŠ
Blood elves versus void elves are bimodal.
Seems like, in the past, when pressed about other customization options, e.g. upright undead, Blizzard responded that they wanted to keep the visual distinctiveness of Horde/Alliance races separate, particularly in PvP.
Why was this thinking tossed out the window for these elves?
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Yeah, but so what? There have been High Elves in the Alliance since vanilla and there are factions out there with fewer members than High Elves. cough Void Elves cough
Also, âBecause of what the Alliance did to them.â isnât really canon at all. Yeah, Garithos sucks, but they joined the Horde because they needed Sylvanas to keep the undead from eating them⊠and even then theyâre bleeding Elves to Dalaran.
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Right because she ate a void god. Ya know, the things that is not common to find. But keep up your head canon.
Yeah because she didnât undergo a ritual meant to completely transform her very being. One that was meant to turn the VE into void walker-like beings. With no flesh and all.
Which i mentioned, they are not seeking more ppl, but open to let those that come. Big difference. Kinda like having a product to sell bit kot actively advertising it. Ppl that knows it exist may buy it, but not a whole lot will come due to not knowing it exists.
Go to telogras. No transformation ritual is being performed there.
Btw there is 0 source there is elves actively becoming void elves beyond head canon.
It doesnât matter anyways, except for the fact the natural skins is not welcome addition in most player eyes. What done is done anyways.
The forums got flooded for years, and they caved due to not wanting to deal with it anymore. Sad thing is, it was not enough, and they went the wrong direction for it.
The largest infusion of High Elves the alliance could get would be the ones that survived on the other side of the Dark Portal and who were with Alleria. The ones that didnât get to experience that very alliance literally having a princeling of the leader of said alliance genocide them and poison their very food source because these problems were mostly âsolvedâ by the time they got back. Even then any family left would probably be absolutely pissed at the alliance for not sending aid and wouldnât sign up willy nilly logically unless they had no other choiceâŠ
Also Garithos is just a singular problem. Letâs not forget that the HE had a troll problem that the alliance refused to help them with after the Horde was pacified that was literally the reason they joined up in the first place and left them for. Then the Arthas led genocide, then the refusal to send aid post ArthasâŠ
The Elves joined the Horde because Sylvanus and the Forsaken were the only ones to offer help to their people after the rampant undead and local trolls were literally eating them. Yes many Elves were and have traveled to Dalaran because it is supposed to be âneutralâ and there is problems with both factions. The elves literally need to eat magic too and the most magical place sans the now fixed sunwell they are welcomed in is literally Dalaran.
Also Void Elves âsigned upâ because Blizz caved to demand and lore was written in for it regardless of how Blizzard prefers to keep models and âdesign spaceâ with as little overlap as possible (see warlock demonology meta removal and death coil name change). Void Elves were cast out of QuelâThelas because the void magic was potentially risking the livelihood of the entire species by being near said font of magic so they got bitter and signed up with the Alliance and therefore are actually against their own people.
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Yeah. There are the Allerian Stronghold Elves. But then there are the lodges in Alliance territory⊠and the Elves in Dalaran and the Elves in Stormwinds mage district and the Elves in Theramore⊠and the elves that the WoW encyclopedia says are joining up.
Yeah. But keep in mind, there is a dwarf spy that is there on a diplomatic mission.
Also keep in mind, the Blood Elves were going to defect to the Alliance in Mists.
Garithos was a Kaelâthas problem⊠and Kaelâthas and his boys went to Outland. Keep in mind that the surviving Blood Elves werenât particularly thrilled with Kaelâthas in the first place since he took their best warriors and went off to get Garithosed,
leaving them to deal with the Troll and Undead problem. Garithos didnât happen to all the Blood Elves. He happened to Kael.
Blood Elves joined the Horde because asian players wanted a pretty race for their girlfriends to play while they played the Horde. So, arguing that the lore reason for Void Elves is player demand doesnât really matter.
Also, I know that WowWiki isnât nearly as good as WoWpedia. But someone added a huge rant i nthe WoWWiki Blood Elf section about Blood Elves not feeding upon fel energy that needs a citation. xD Just letting people be free over there I guess.
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most players that will never play a void elf you must add, because just taking a look to void elves in cities will show you a lot liked the high elf customizations, there are people like me playing both customs from time to time without hesitation. i have 3 void elves at 60 and change their customs anytime.
if there were 2 totally different process there could be a third meanwhile they show a 3rd way. high elves and blood elves in telogrus rift are a subfaction of void elves as kirin tor students are from the kirin tor
but why do void elves with pale skin bleed purple? it seems they as alleria manage to keep their uncorrupted lookâŠ
some people in bad faith try hard to show void elves with pale/brown skin are still void elves, but the same people angers at the sole idea of void elves being in control of their bodies like alleria.
what is in game is cannon, blizzard didnât need to add high elves non blood elves to telogrus rift to push customizations, they put them there for something, thatâs why they didnât the same with red eyed customizations
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While this is true, I donât really consider eye colors to be a racial theme.
Maybe not, but the hairstyles Void Elves do have tend to be more detailed.
I will forever be salty about Blood Elf customization. We got two jewelry tones (other races got four or five), three necklaces, three cuffs that disappear underneath gloves, and three new earrings. It is next to nothing, to be honest.
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It impacts blood elves by making them feel cheaper. Every race SHOULD have clear distinctions. And every race does more or less, with the exception of blood elves. If Void elves were at least horde it wouldnât be that big of a deal. But with them being alliance while being almost identical to Blood Elves makes it feel EXTREMELY⊠bad(Christ when did WoW forums become so Christian you cant even curse). Itâs like the blood elves betrayed the horde. And what truly made me annoyed is when they decided to give Void Elves the darkfallen customizations. Like what in the world??? Why? There is literally 0 logic behind that from a lore perspective. And even beyond that, Dark Rangers have been ICONIC horde troops since forever. And now the Alliance get them? We better get some iconic Alliance races to make it fair.
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