Void Elf Paladin - This NPC Needs Fixing

[Tahonto-malganis]

Okay so it should be easy for you to find it…

Typically when people reference a point they made, they’re the ones who cite it not the other way around. Didn’t they teach you that in inmate school?

[Kittredge-azjolnerub (Kittredge)]

I don’t care about any of that, I just care about classes getting more customization options.

[Galathir-proudmoore]

One day I’ll be able to play a Priest of Elune proper, I’ll not give out hope.

[Quivermethis-rexxar]

Same tbh. They removed glyphs and didn’t replace them with anything. And continually remove what few cosmetical glyphs we have left.

[Tahonto-malganis]

@Quivermethis-rexxar

Tbh posting period while he is here is a mistake. He is going to replay super snarky to anyone who replies right

@Quivermethis-rexxar

Who gave you crayons again?!

That’s it! I’m calling the daycare…

Oof

10char

[Tahonto-malganis]

Back on topic…

The disc spec is the ultimate example as to how a velf paladin makes sense.

Christ, we have LFD locks and this is a stretch???

Come on, OP…

[Fuzzbutt-zuljin]

walks into thread

“Hey whats going… oh… um.”

quietly walks back out of thread.

[Kittredge-azjolnerub (Kittredge)]

@Quivermethis-rexxar

Same tbh. They removed glyphs and didn’t replace them with anything. And continually remove what few cosmetical glyphs we have left.

That’s a shame, I think the glyph system is completely under utilized.

[Quivermethis-rexxar]

Absolutely. It’s such an easy way to implement cosmetics and they just flat out ignore it lol.

@Fuzzbutt-zuljin

quietly walks back out of thread.

Nope you get back in here!

[Brakkarion-wyrmrest-accord]

Curious about how the whole light vs shadow explosion thing came up. Was it only Alleria doing it? Because aside from new stuff, Void didn’t go nuclear when exposed to light, it went nuclear when exposed to Fel, considering the chaotic nature of Fel is more opposed to the entropy of the void in terms of magic chemistry despite some would say Arcane and Fel are on opposites they didn’t react in the same way.

[Sinelius-area-52]

The class/race combo lore became a joke when forsaken could use the light without being burned ages ago. A void elf paladin is fine by that standard.

[Kittredge-azjolnerub (Kittredge)]

@Quivermethis-rexxar

Absolutely. It’s such an easy way to implement cosmetics and they just flat out ignore it lol.

I think Blizzards logic was that the Trading Post kind of took away the need for that sort of thing. But, I think they should put profession specific patterns and plans on the Trading Post.

Glyphs could be thrown in there, patterns, plans, blueprints or what ever. It’d add a layer of complexity between the players and the Trading Post. And, it’d also allow people to use the Trading Post to interact with other players, which as far as I know hasn’t been done yet.

[Galathir-proudmoore]

Yeah they did walk back the burning bit and then said it’d be painful.

My memory may be wrong, but I remember you used to be able to damage forsaken with (holy) healing spells in PvP.

[Quivermethis-rexxar]

@Kittredge-azjolnerub

I think Blizzards logic was that the Trading Post kind of took away the need for that sort of thing.

It added cool tmog and stuff, but we really need spell effects and stuff. Which we are severely lacking cosmetics in that department.

@Kittredge-azjolnerub

it’d also allow people to use the Trading Post to interact with other players, which as far as I know hasn’t been done yet.

That’s a good idea. honestly.

[Quenya-shadow-council (Quenya)]

@Lore-herod

Uphold the lore

Must be new.

NPCs have always been the exception. Go check out Lights Hope

[Louvé-moon-guard]

Priests exist. There is an ENTIRE spec around using both void and light. They had an ENTIRE artifact questline about how managing the powers of void and light together allows for it’s use.

There are NARUU, Who go through cycles of LIGHT AND VOID.

Void and Light have never had this rule, the void and the light are not a binary, it’s over exposure of one that leads to the inability to withstand the other. Alleria for example. Even then- the Light doesn’t even follow “rules” you imply they’re breaking. A long time ago “Undead can’t use the light” was the standard- for less than one expansion, because a death knight was using the light back in VANILLA.

The light works off faith. If you don’t think it should work, it stops working. If you don’t believe in what you’re doing is good, you can’t use it. If you DO think it should always work, even if you’re undead, part void, or whatever- it does, this goes back to VANILLA. If you think it should hurt you because of your guilt over being infused with void, it does. That’s why Alleria is hurt by it.

And “False elves players” go back to classic you absolute LOSER. Oh wait, you’d have to stop playing your fake high elves, guess you can’t.

[Louvé-moon-guard]

@Sinelius-area-52

The class/race combo lore became a joke when forsaken could use the light without being burned ages ago. A void elf paladin is fine by that standard.

You mean back in Vanilla when Naxx came out and proved, once gain, as stated since at least warcraft III, that the light has no rules and works on quite literally, “Clap your hands if you believe” logic ala 40k orcs?

If you think it works this way, the Light will do whatever the hell you want it to. You’re undead and think you’re built different? Congrats you can cast healing spells. You’re a literal death knight forced to kill in the name of the scourge but truly believe your faith in the light was so ironclad you’ll never be forsaken by it? Cool you can be the only death knight paladin multiclass in the lore. You are so insanely devoted to the point of zelotry towards the light? You can work with literal demons and still wield the light (Scarlet Crusade) or even BE a demon and even become lightforged as a creature of literal death and shadow from the shadowlands (don’t ask why you never bring up the jailer to your new lightforged friends).

Meanwhile: You don’t think you can use the light anymore? You lose it. You think the void and the Light are opposed? You can’t use both. You think you’re a monster now that you’re infused with void in the eyes of the light (because of indoctrination by a Naru and notoriously unreliable narrator)? You are hurt by being near the light.

[Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord]

@Lore-herod

Void Elves can’t use the Light,

Yeah they can.

@Lore-herod

when you combine Light + Void this results in the catastrophic reaction of an explosion.

No it doesn’t.

[Tenebrae-eredar]

@Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord

Yeah they can.

That makes no sense and contradicts the lore in several places.

@Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord

No it doesn’t.

Yes, it does. It’s the entire reason the void elves were banished from Silvermoon.

[Hellasha-alleria (Hellasha)]

Priests and paladins are very different classes.

Paladins are holy knights, protectors of the people, and dispensers of justice. Where a Holy Priest serves as voice of the Light, preaching to the downtrodden and disillusioned, the Paladin serves as hand of the Light, defending the faithful and enforcing divine law like a righteous hammer.

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Paladin

Before life began and before even the universe existed, there was only the Light. The Light existed as a boundless sea of living energy, swelling across all of existence, unfettered by time and space. Yet as the ever-shifting sea expanded, pockets of cold nothingness appeared, giving birth to a second, opposite force: the Void. The growing tension between the two opposing energies eventually ignited a series of cosmic explosions that gave birth to the physical universe, the Great Dark Beyond. The cataclysmic birth of the cosmos sent shards of fractured Light flying through the cosmos, suffusing the newly formed planets of the universe with the spark of life and giving birth to countless life forms, the most common of which were the primordial elementals. Occasionally, these shards of Light would gather and form clouds of Light from which powerful beings would emerge, among which the benevolent naaru. The most unstable energies created by the cosmic explosions coalesced into an astral dimension known as the Twisting Nether.

https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Light

Before life began and before even the universe existed, there was only the Light. The Light existed as a boundless sea of living energy, swelling across all of existence, unfettered by time and space. Yet as the ever-shifting sea expanded, pockets of cold nothingness appeared. From these spaces, the Void coalesced. The Void quickly grew and began to move against the Light, and before long, the mounting tension between the two forces ignited a series of explosions that ruptured the very fabric of creation, giving birth to the physical universe.

The energies released from the clashing of Light and Void raged across the nascent cosmos, forming countless primordial worlds. For long epochs, the ever-expanding Great Dark Beyond broiled in a maelstrom of fire and magic. Shards of Light were flung throughout reality, suffusing worlds with the spark of life. Various types of energies came to be (such as death).

The most unstable energies coalesced into the astral dimension known as the Twisting Nether. Light and Void collided and bled together at the edges of this realm, throwing it into turmoil. Although the Twisting Nether existed outside the borders of the physical universe, its volatile energies would occasionally tear through the veil of the Great Dark, flooding into reality and warping creation.

https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Great_Dark_Beyond