Its why I mentioned it, because in the character screen you have to pick NE or BE origins to be a Demon hunter which segues this argument into a brick wall.
What do you think
Of this concept
The one to the left is I think a point of contention because it basically makes the idea of class skin moot. So people are asking the effort and resources of class skins to be put in to get the Paladin ball rolling. But theyâre also trying to Trojan horse a regular Paladin skin in.
Itâs fair to say that at the very least Blizzard not make the effort of class skins moot is it not?
Iâm personally against both but Iâm still able to discern who is asking for a class skin as a concept and who is just using that to get their foot in the door for a regular Paladin.
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You believe the the light has no transformative power because it isnât visually obvious? Good thing you canât see sickle cell anemia.
Again. Not what weâre talking about. Weâre talking about a ritual where void elves were physically transformed.
In lore, being infused with light does not change your race so Iâm not sure what the argument is about.
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Youâre deflecting very hard Blondfire.
It IS what we are talking about. The subject is based on whether or not any school of magicâs âTransformative powersâ can alter someone into another race, is it not? Is that not the core point of your argument for void elves?
Correct, the only physical change a paladin goes through is gaining peak mortal strength, as noted in the arthas novel.
I cant speak for anyone but myself. Im against a Void Elf playing a class that is entirely Light themed (and paladins are fanatics. They dont just pray to the light. They would do stuff that would net me a forum bann to it if they could.)
But im fine with them getting a Void Themed âpaladinâ (call it Void Harbinger or something) that plays like a paladin. Doesnt mean that i would play a Void Elf Paladin however. Would probably stick with my Dwarf or Zandalari.
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So becoming physically stronger isnât a form of gene expression as opposed to developing a mutated tentacle which is?
Again, there is a difference between going through a process that infuses your body with light vs a ritual where you have been physically changed.
I would look at that through say what steroids do to you vs a radioactive mutation would do to you.
You think Draenei havenât been physically altered by the light is what you mean to tell me. Bare in mind I am speaking about Light forged Draenei here.
Illidan is stated to be unique or hybrid.
Our Demon Hunterâs arenât considered Demons.
You proclaiming this like you have a say in it? Yeah i agree, we really have to watch our status here my guy, you are NOT Blizzard.
Irrelevant really, since theyâve stated to already have a plan to expand classes to all races, whether this comes in class skins or not.
A process you stated was halted, Gaijin is right, your entire argument is incoherent, youâre talking in circles, like most people with nothing left to say do.
I say just stop, this is embarrassing for you.
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Thank you for elaborating.
To me I basically donât see âlight themed Paladinâ as a class skin. And I see it as disingenuous to try to get that in at the same time people who are actually after a class skin concept are trying to talk about that stuff.
I appreciate you elaborating 
I think overall my disagreement with a void Paladin class skin is more neutral if that makes sense, and I appreciate the clarity when speaking to people to try to discern who is actually talking about a class skin and who is trying to use class skins to push a regular Paladin concept.
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I stated above that they need to flesh out Lightforged Dranei. They actually kind of donât make sense. A paladin being infused with light doesnât change their race but for some reason when a Draenei gets infused with light it does? Thatâs something blizzard really needs to flesh out.
That doesnât help your argument, its still a contradiction. A mutation is a genetic error. But with the same standard youâre implying that it isnât true in the terms of light magic, death magic or whatever because they donât have a tentacle.
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Perhaps it is your perception that is wrong, and not the lore. Something worth reflecting on.
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The only way void elf paladins make sense lore wise if it increases WoW token sales or Character Services revenues.
Honestly for me that would be fine in the long run. I just highly doubt its how Blizzard is going to do it, and they still said theyâre moving towards any race any class.
Iâd still want paladin in that case to be void based for them.
Lore never said anything aside from them just not being rogues by nature of honorable hunters. Tauren of the Grimtotem have used rogues even in vanilla and very definitely from cata onwards.
Nothing actually stopped them aside from Blizzard being weird on class distribution. You can literally see them keeping the sides relatively even by class for years.
And before you claim it, Iâve been playing warcraft since Orcs & Humans.
Ah thats cute. The Grimtotem who refused to go along with Magathaâs madness rejoined the Thunder Bluff Tauren back in Cata. Learn the lore.
Nothing has stopped us beyond Blizzard being doofusâ.
^^^
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I do think lightforged had be changed to the degree like VE does, they are no longer just normal dreanei, only difference is the light purposely preserve them enough to not effect their descendants. I think lightforged dreanei had been surgically changed by the light, vs void elves whom fully been effected by it. which is why I say they have been âremadeâ by the light.
Not really, since we are talking about fiction here.
The light is more like a steroid when we are applying regular paladins here. You know when you use a steroid you gain muscle mass kinda deal. They are still themselves just juiced up.
Lightforged is more of the light surgically choosing what to remake (which is why dreanie can still have kids) It makes sense if you think of it ways like when they literally explode on death on their racials (The light implanted a holy bomb in them you could say)
The void in void elves is more like a radioactive mutation, where it fully changes them. They are no longer just elves. Their entire bio-mass was changed like with any other super hero comic level of thought proccess.
Either way, there is allot of examples of body changes in WoW, the biggest one is the steps to become a demon by slowly consuming fel until you become one. The same can be applied to necromancers slowly becoming beings of un death.
This sounds like head cannon from your own interpretation of lore, which is very on brand for you, I guess.
So it is.
You trying to get people to think the way you do actively points to you interpreting lore in your own way, rather than what it is.
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