Actually four… the Fel could potentially do it too.
Oh Wait…Five. We’ve seen life powers do it too.
The implications here are actually immense.
Apply that concept to other powers of the cosmos than Death itself.
If Necromancy is just a use of magic of any kind in a particular way then what is the power we use overall across all our classes? Are they all like this?
By that explanation the Void can be used to heal just fine.
The fel not only can but has been used to mend. Back when destruction warlocks had burning embers instead of soul shards they could use them for chaos bolts rain of fire or…ember tap. Healing themselves with fel magic. After hearing sindaine explain it the way she did it seems clear that every cosmic force has a standard mode of operations it abides by of its own choosing for whatever reason. But it’s not limited to those rules. Occasionally it does things that really don’t even make sense to us. Even with the explanation I still don’t understand why the light, which has the power to fully restore life, instead chose necromancy. Why?
Not sure really… Hard to tell… though it could also be about the Light seeing that one path forwards… maybe they think Calia as an undead would be best placed among the Forsaken for whatever they forsee in the future.
That’s true. I often forget about the light’s single minded unwavering one truth. Such arrogance. Even the void who typically doesn’t make comments about character traits because they don’t care noted how blind the light actually is because of the sheer irony.
This is very, very wrong lol. You even see uther get embeud with the light in his memory quests.
They used to have a theme, until the HE players stripped it away with their tantrum.
Basically they lost what they where, ever heard of the saying “less is more”?
/thread.
Ok this is not cool though, the labels needs to stop on both sides.
Better idea, tell blizzard all race all class idea needs to go in the trash bin.
Honestly, half elves is generally the better idea anyways. The difference is high elf players don’t want it and blood elf players feared they would be a copy of them again when if designed right, they would not.
I mean… DK’s had always been considered WoW’s anti-paladin since WC 2.
It us also established in the lore that void abd light has sentient “will’s” per say.they are not just energy.
They have been giving stuff the HE community wanted, not the VE community what they wanted, which created a conflict of those that did enjoyed VE’s for what they used to be.
Dracthyr needs to be able to transmog first. Most of their customization is just armor appearances.
HE players did. But your right void elf players did not ask for that.
I am not with that group, but pot meets kettle, both discords do the same thing.
Heh, I honestly am starting to look into whatever the new mmo riot is making. It seems they are heading in the right direction for world building.
Don’t argue with that one. He knows nothing of pally lore and refuses to learn it.
Paladins are infused with the light.
Void elves (at least the original batch before the retcon) are literally transformed almost completely into void beings. Light infusion into them would arguably kill them, rather then free them.
I think the book when she was raised explained it pretty clear the light wanted to fully ressurect calia, but calua choose undeath. Whether the light letting her do that or not is unclear.
What can be argued is the efficiency of the energies to do an act. We saw it took 3 sources of strong light users to create one undead, vs that time anduin alone to raise one person back to life.
You actually do not. Even in the books, you do not read about it.
A Lightforge Draenei, they are infused with the Light. But a Paladin is not.
Had to browse around for all this source, so enjoy the read.:
Of Blood and Honor (Chapter 2):
“Archbishop: In the Light, we gather to empower our brother. In its grace, he will be made anew. In its power, he shall educate the masses. In its strength, he shall combat the shadow. And, in its wisdom, he shall lead his brethren to the eternal rewards of paradise.”
“Archbishop: Clerics of the Northshire, if you deem this man worthy, place your blessings upon him.
One of the clerics comes with a blessed dark blue embroidered stole in his hands, which he placed reverently around Tirion’s neck. Then, he dipped his thumb in a small vial of sacred oil and anointed Tirion’s forehead.”
“Archbishop: Knights of the Silver Hand, if you deem this man worthy, place your blessings upon him.
Two of the armored men comes, the first laid the warhammer before Tirion’s feet. The second, Saidan Dathrohan, placed the silver plates upon Tirion’s shoulders.”
“Each of the clerics and knights raised their right hands and pointed toward Tirion, empowered him with the holy light.”
Arthas: Rise of the Lich King (Part 1: Chapter 5):
“In the Light, we gather to empower our brother.”
& 3) are similar to the 2) & 3) from above
“Sweat broke out on Arthas’s brow. What was going wrong? Why wasn’t the Light wrapping itself around him in blessing and benediction?”
The rest of the book makes a point that the light flows through him or he’s channeling it etc. Same as priests.
Chapter 8 … “Maybe if he focused on fighting, on learning how to accept, and channel and direct the Light, he could get the hell over her. Over the girl he himself had broken up with”
Had he been infused, why would he need to learn to accept, channel, and direct the light? Seems like it’d only be directing.
This ceremony is exclusive to the Order of the Silver Hand, which not all Paladins are a part of. There is no evidence to support that other Paladin individuals/races/organizations undergo the same process nor is it explicitly mentioned that it’s needed to become a Paladin.
This is just a fact. Silver Hand was originally just Humans and Dwarves.
Draenei became Paladins through the Naaru teaching them about the Light.
High Elves had Paladins through normal worship of the Light, but briefly lost in after most of them renamed to Blood Elves and had to drain it from Naaru. With the Sunwell restored, the Blood Knights returned to embracing the Light like the originally did.
Sunwalkers get the Light from basic worship of An’she, which is just a different form of the Draenei worshipping it through the Naaru and Humans/Dwarves through the Light itself.
The first Human Paladins were literally just Warrior + Priest
Tides of Darkness (Chapter 5)
“I will establish a new branch of the Church, the paladins. I have already selected the first candidates for this order. Some were knights before but others were priests. I chose these men for both their piety and their martial prowess. They will be trained, not only in war but in prayer and in healing. And each of these valient fighters will possess both martial and spiritual power, particularly in blessing themselves and other with the strength of the Holy Light.”
And just so you’re aware there is zero statement about the ORIGINAL paladins of the Church, mentioned above, having gone through the ceremony mentioned twice earlier. This implying that the ceremony was created afterwards, and that again it isn’t necessary for one to be a Paladin.
Mockery of the lore ?
I’m the one fact checking those spreading misinformation of the lore.
At least on this particular common misconception.
But also others, like people falsely claiming that Fel and Void can’t mix.
It’s a common misconception here on the forums. It’s the primary reason people don’t agree with allowing Void Elves to be Demon Hunters. It’s not accurate though.
Only thing I can think is that one boss in WoD that was overly infused on purpose with void and fel… like they were infused on purpose though way more than anyone should… Too much of any power source is going to cause problems.
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