Void Elf or High Elf alliance paladins?

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You are half right. Yes, the use of the dragons burning the forest and then the Alliance having to chase the Horde to Lordearon are canon lore. However, the whole “well our forest burned, we blame it on the Alliance” was effectively just an excuse by Anastarian to leave the Alliance. Because as mentioned by Terenas, if not for the Alliance all of Quel’thalas would have burned.

To make matters worse, the high elves of Silvermoon brusquely rescinded their allegiance to the Alliance, stating that the humans’ poor leadership had led to the burning of their forests during the Second War. Terenas fought back his impatience and quietly reminded the elves that nothing of Quel’Thalas would have remained if not for the hundreds of valiant humans who’d given their lives to defend it. Nonetheless, the elves stubbornly decided to go their own way. In the wake of the elves’ departure, Gilneas and Stromgarde seceded as well.

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I sympathize w you and hope they give you more story in a way that doesn’t infringe on Blood Elves as the playable high elf race.

To me that’s story elaborating on joining the VEs and what comes w that as Void Elf story is now it’s own thing while BE story continues the HE narrative.

And while we disagree can acknowledge you’ve been respectful to people in the thread regardless of their stance.

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Amen man, deep down inside I like most the elf races in the warcrafts series and honestly I might have to brush the dust off my blood elf pally and find a fun mog for him. I kind of want to see what happens with Lor’themar and silvermoon in the future as well. :clinking_glasses:

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Yes, the alliance’s trash leadership led to the orcish horde being in Azeroth in the first place. Medivh should have gotten shanked ages ago because fel magic is very, very bad news as far as HEs are concerned at this particular point.

From the PoV of the elves? Remember that they are long lived and look at the world differently than humans do.

from their perspective? The elves literally gave them a guide to magic (to prevent them from summoning the legion because humans almost did that) and assisted at Dalaran to try and curb this sort of crap. Why are the humans not also ensuring that their own don’t guzzle down sargeras/fel juice to prevent summoning a bunch of fel crazed orcs? A literal human summoned the horde and let them in. This is obviously a human problem so they should have handled it by shanking the summoner earlier or putting aside differences and banding together (like they do against fel) to storm them with everything.

The human’s didn’t handle it (clearly) and said problem allied with the trolls and made it an elf problem. That forced them to join up with the alliance and go all in for this event because it is now their problem too.

If the humans wanted to prove they weren’t horrible and that the alliance was worth staying in they should have been willing to send people to learn/assist in rebuilding the elf lands because they technically made this bed.

This is how the elven leadership viewed it. The human leaders at table post WC2 shrugged their shoulders were like ‘oh those humans that made this mess weren’t ours so be grateful we even helped’ so the elves left. Which makes sense.

The fact that nobody even tried to understand why the elves would want their stuff rebuilt /assistance ending the troll leftovers or attempt to understand the elves perspective was a massive failing on the alliance’s hands (that was led by humans)

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  1. The Alliance did not even exist when the Horde entered Azeroth. 2) Medivh, as a guardian of Tirisfal, is a product of Dalaran, a jointly human/high elven affair.

Because that is not what happened. Sargeras covertly went into Medivh. Not to mention her Mother is the reason Sargeras was initially defeat/Avatar of Sargeras was sealed away.

No one knew he summoned the orcs until it was all too late, and the humans did kill him once they learned about it.

Correction, the Guardian of Tirisfal is a jointly made creation by High elves and humans. In fact the first Guardian, Alodi is literally a half-elf. So Medivh is as much a high elven mess as a human one.

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The Void Elves need a story first.

At this point I would be extremely open to a complete and total revamp of it. For starters, let’s divorce them from Quel’Thalas entirely. As in, no, Lor’themar didn’t go and exile even more of his people. As it is, Blood Elf Shadow Priests are extremely iffy. That’s wrong.

Go back to the drawing board. Have Alleria borrow the Silver Covenant for a weekend trip to Outland to look for some of her lost rangers out there. We can spring the void trap with the Ethereal guy again, transform the Silver Covenant, and then Alleria’s rangers emerge. They’ve already been through this, it turns out. They’re already Void Elves. Have been for several thousand years, because time works weirdly in the Twisting Nether.

How did they avoid succumbing to the whispers? Meditation techniques. Just go full Vulcan with them. Meditation to calm the mind and body, and then as each whisper comes, analyze it, consider what is or isn’t logical, and determine the proper course of action which is, 99.9% of the time, to ignore it.

These Void Elves have an actual society, a population, infrastructure, ceremonies and rituals and rites based on their new existence. While certain trappings of their past lives act as a foundation, much of what they are now is virtually unrecognizable from what they were long ago.

There is no Magistry, but rather another group of casters whom focus on blending void and other powers together (namely the arcane). Their leader is a mentalist who rivals Professor Xavier in terms of mind manipulation, can even cause a room of people to freeze in place, and then resume, unaware there had ever been a pause.

There are no Farstriders/Rangers, but a group of hunters whom stalk the currents and eddies of the void’s energies, scouting out threats and eliminating them, or bringing them to the aforementioned not-magistry to have their minds wiped of all knowledge of the Void Elves.

Rather than a bunch of tents on rocks, give them an actual city just floating through the Void. Doesn’t have to be too big, really. Half the size of Dalaran would be more than enough I’d imagine. Floating islands acting as home to research, with specimens of void-related entities or artifacts for study.

While it’s far too much work to completely revamp all of BFA to include and develop the Void Elves more, I think a good compromise is simply placing some void-assets onto those islands. We could see one with a lake wherein those mind squids from Naz’jatar are being studied, with Naga void tomes nearby. We could see another were assets from the invasions of the Vale of Eternal Blossoms and Uldum are kept. We could see specimens from Uldir.

These actual Void Elves whom have existed for thousands of years are very divorced from Azeroth, feeling no reason to return to it. The Silver Covenant elves are the ones bringing stuff back and still struggling to maintain their place on Azeroth, led by Magister Umbric whom previously had a different name, but changed it after his transformation. The antics of the Silver Covenant elves are somewhat embarrassing to these long-term Void Elves, but what can you expect from these people whom haven’t mastered their minds and disciplined their emotions?

If needed, have a scene where Talthressar returns to Azeroth with a small delegation of these Void Elves, crosses paths with Lor’themar, maybe even walk in the lands of Quel’Thalas again, just to show how much they do not care about it anymore.

Halduron: “I’m sure this must be painful, old friend, but this is what the Scourge did to the village of your birth.”
Talthressar: “It was simply a place I once dwelled, Halduron. It’s destruction means nothing.”
Lor’themar: “Aren’t you even a little dismayed to see our fair lands in such a state?”
Talthressar: “What purposes would that serve? Would tears and tantrums undo the harm done? Quel’Thalas fell, the southern woods blighted beyond recognition. It is unfortunate, then but we exist in an uncaring and unfortunate universe.”
Halduron: “But… this is Quel’Thalas…”
Talthressar: “Yes, I suppose it is. Just one more kingdom to feel the wrath of war, and certainly not to be the last.”

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I’d love a VElf Pally, but I’m not overly hopeful.

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I would really like Blizzard to add a story for these new “high elf/dark ranger” void elf NPCs, maybe in a new patch like they did with the new class/race combos. :crossed_fingers:

If they don’t, that’s no problem for me, they’re already there much like Lanesh, that means “non-void” void elves exist.

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hey look, you put more effort into this post than the people who literally designed the void elves

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And that’s why I am so disgusted with them.

There is some solid potential in the concept to be something amazing, but Blizzard refused to commit to it. Like I said before, if what we have now is what Blizzard always intended, then they should’ve just added High Elves instead.

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More stuff to play! More allied races? :smiley:

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Exactly there’s already Silver Covenant High Elf Paladins. So why not.

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I just hope it won’t be blood knights joining the void elves ! Anything is possible with Blizzard.:laughing:

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I don’t think Blood Knights would be joining. It’ll be likely to see Silver Covenant joining the Void Elves.

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All scenarios are possible, but High Elf Paladins of the Silver Covenant would be good candidates.:ok_hand:

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void elves are corrupted by the void, paladins are servants of the light. If shadow lands taught us anything these groups are at each others throats. A void elf would have to be purged of the void for the light to accept them.

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Void Knights please!

Paladins with a “Green fire” style animation, icon, and spell name change to use void effects. But mechanically speaking, the abilities are the same.

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I laughed way too hard for this.

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If the Alliance received another race I’m betting the majority of people would not be happy to get yet another elf. I’m pretty sure more people would rather have something new.

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Obviously, Blizzard won’t be adding any new High Elf, Dark Ranger, Wildhammer, Sand Troll or Dark Troll allied races, they are already available through customizations.

They could just improve the character creation to be able to choose the “race” that we want to be and also unlock a class according to our choice (high elf paladin or wildhammer druid for example).

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