Wait… Orcs are monogamous?
and here I am, Arch Mage of Silvermoon just now learning of this after seven years of being in the Horde.
Not that I can tell any of you apart. How do you do that again, count the biceps?
Other orcs who go after new wives are just weak. They dont like that their wives are stronger than them.
True orcs respect their wives. That’s why Mankirk never got remarried. he still standing next to his wive’s grave.
I really respect that Rohkthok. You’re a man of great honor. I don’t understand, as an elf that’s paid to snort blood thistle off all manner of Horde races, but I respect you.
Why are people mad?
Rohkthok can finally pretend that he can kill fellow Blood Elves when he sees natural haired void elves.
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God, it’s like we all dreamed back in 26 when the Blood Elves first joined the Horde…
If only the Alliance had some orcs I could stop claiming, finger quotations “Friendly Fire” incidents with blizzard spells.
I think both sides take this out of the context he really meant for it.
Ion is not good at talking to people especially crowds… and he is out of touch with the player base that cares about things like that.
Hes a damned good raid designer. He deserves the accolades for that.
But that man cannot be a PR person.
Lore… Honestly never met someone named Lore that hasn’t seemed at least a little pretentious to me.
No other read on him. Just that.
More to the point.
I think that whole thing about “The Horde is waiting for you” was really more to point out that they at that time didn’t have any plans to add High Elves. Nothing more. It wasn’t meant to dig at anyone and it wasn’t meant to mean that they never would.
I also don’t think Void Elves were meant as a tease either. I think Blizzard at the time really thought people would love them. (I did) They didn’t think people would react to them that way cause they’re not as in touch with cosmetics like that.
Of course thats my interpreting their motives.
They’re not short handed.
He admitted in an interview that they don’t really have a plan. They’re doing things as they go. They’re poorly managed. They have the hands. They don’t have the direction.
You, know though… You’re right. Most folk who are in the casual bucket want to play races and with their friends. New shiny races make them all the more happy to play. especially when its one they’ve been waiting for. Dreaming about.
You mistake me.
I did want a high elf.
Then they gave me Blood Elves… which was my high elf.
Then they gave me the SC and I was like… it’d be cool to have this Alliance side.
Then they gave me MoP and I was like…SC… nooo… what are you doing?
Then they gave me Void elves and I was like, this. I want this far more than I’ve wanted anything else.
I was waiting for High Elves and Wildhammer for 15 or so years. I was waiting for Ogres and Revantusk for 15 years or so. Half the reason I checked back every so often was to look and see if I could have em yet. (Also Demon Hunter which… 
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That nameplate isn’t important. Not really. Its everything else thats important about a race.
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Rhokthok tends to visit him frequently to let him know that we need to visit his wife’s grave. Otherwise he’d just keep asking travelers to find his wife’s remains.
I think raid and mythic + design are really good. Dungeons have been pretty awesome since BFA.
For sure. I’m a Mythic + player. I go and dunk on Mythic +'s. My casual friends are like, “Let’s go hang out and level an alt.” they don’t want to step into a dungeon, it’s too competitive for them.
And they really like if you can smash some content for them to get them some mogs. 
Mmm. I think I was originally upset about it. But then I went over to Horde and I played a Blood Elf Paladin and a Blood Elf Mage until BFA. But at the same time, I never really thought of them as Horde characters? Or even really Blood Elves. I had a real disconnect with Blood Elves ever since the starting zone. The mana draining. The weird parties. The Blood thistle. the callous laughter…
They were just very mean girls and it wasn’t my thing. But that’s how they were designed…
I don’t like that Blood Mages disappeared. I do have one. I also built a Blood Knight. I haven’t made the time to level them yet.
I was pretty infatuated with the High Elves in Vanilla WoW actually. I remember the lodges and I was really excited. They weren’t Blood Elves. There was a Blood Elf in the game, but they were High Elves… and they were in Theramore and I’d always stop and look and really want to play one.
Some people are just pastel goth man. But I’ve got a Discipline Priest, a Rogue and a Brewmaster Monk that are Void Elves and plan to keep them that way.
I say I’ve got them… honestly I play WoW for Mythic + Content. So… it’s really been a dream of mine to play a High Elf Paladin ever since Warcraft 2. So it’s pretty crazy, I fought tooth and nail for some High Elves ever since Allied Races were announced and they’re gonna come out and I’ll fix up my three High Elves with new hair colors probably. But then I’m gonna go be a Druid Healer.
I guess if they could be Druid Healers or Shamans or Holy Paladins I’d switch. To be honest I’d switch to a High Elf Holy Paladin in a moment. I wish.
Yeah. Historically I quit WoW after like… three months, after every expansion. So I’d show up and I loved WoW. But I didn’t raid so after I beat the dungeons the expansion was over and I’d go… be good at fighting games, or shooting games, or strategy games or racing games…
I didn’t play Legion because I was in school studying hard. But ironically, in BFA I played because I needed something I could do for half an hour and then stop between studying. So I picked it back up and figured out that they’d made Mythic Dungeons and I’ve stayed subbed for three years now because of it.
Man, I’m not gonna lie. It’s sort of important to me. Not because of forum posters.
But also, High Elven Paladins exist. They’ve got the Shield Bearers in the Legion Paladin Order hall… and I really, really want that.
I’ll go with him Rohkthok… I won’t even hit him with a blizzard and bury him with the others.
The people will mock you for not being a Paladin but nobody should really care anymore at this point. The elf war is over.
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it is not bait.
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your colors inconvenience everyone else who wanted VE to be unique and BE to be unique.
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pro HE’s has been on a crusade to destroy VE and take them over. What are you on about. pro’s is not on VE’s side.
Correction; The only “high” elf in the order hall is a half elf. Not a high elf.
The way things were going between WCIII and WoW I wasn’t surprised with where the Blood Elves went. It made perfect sense for their story.
Hell they’ve been trying to get away from the Alliance since the end of WCII. And they weren’t that interested before hand.
The High Elves faced near extinction and ended up as Blood Elves. I was honestly surprised there were any that still called themselves high elves when vanilla launched. That made me wonder honestly.
Not surprised by the parties… since that was really only one guy trying to stave off the crushing realization his people were a shadow of their former selves slowly dying on the vine as the magic addiction and their subsequent needs literally left their people with little future left.
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Honestly I thought that was a good way to try to showcase the very realistic viewpoint some folk take in those situations. “Everythings fine, business as usual.”
I think I mentioned already, but I thought it was odd that there were any calling themselves high elves anymore… The name was changed to blood elf to honor the fallen and I honestly do kinda see it as scummy that they don’t take that name.
Whatever their political affiliations might be.
From Vanilla till wrath I didn’t really see any high elves that I thought would make sense as a group to join the roster of playable races. Wanted one back then but also, with Blood Elves, like I said, I already had what I needed because Blood Elves are the high elves I wanted to play from WCII onward.
Goth isn’t my thing.
Void is though. My first void elf was a former farstrider who went with Umbric’s group when they were exiled. Shes still blue to this day of course. I have Fenelon here who was a SC member but left after The Purge disgusted in the SC, went through some stuff that exposed him to the void, eventually joining the void elves himself. (I rp hes a full void elf now with 4 tentacles on his back and a stomach mouth.)
Got another high elf toon whose supposedly from the Highvale and another blueberry void elf who is a Riftblade.
Then theres the Black dragon that was spying on Umbric and his exiles when the trap hit and ended up turned into a void dragon… shes fun.
So 2 Blueberries, 1 dragon blueberry, 1 non blueberry void elf and 1 high elf.
Any of those three seems pretty unlikely for Void elves honestly.
Also while there are a few high elf paladins they’re not like Blood elves. I don’t think theres many of them. Might not be enough to justify the class if high elves were put out.
That gets into the weeds though on paladin numbers among high elves that just don’t exist so… eh.
Druids of those three I think is the most possible. Still not huge on it.
I personally don’t see the point.
I know they happen. There was one back in Wrath. I just doubt theres enough to justify- I already said this.
I also don’t see it being attached to Void elves though.
Silver Hand Shieldbearer - NPC - World of Warcraft (wowhead.com)
Look at those pretty blue eyes. Back in Legion no less. 
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you mean the blood elf? You ok?
Also your link shows me a dwarf.
Eh. I don’t know about “Perfect Sense.”
The Undead angle is a good angle. Because otherwise why not just be isolationist?
Eh, I’ve never bought that from this conversation. That guy is just “Carrying on.”
But that means he’s doing the same thing he was doing before.
They definitely paint Sin’dorei as a bit hedonistic.
Also, keep in mind, “Crazy dude whose having parties after the collapse of his civilization.” is a guy having a tea party with a bunch of skeletons.
He’s not alone out there. There are Blood Elves participating in it. So it’s not, “One guy.”
It was a package deal with draining mana. Also, keep in mind that home for a lot of High Elves is Dalaran, or Stormwind, or the Lodges, or Theramore.
The pen and paper RPG is non-cannon but it originally worked with the developers and it gives percentages for High Elves out there.
shudders at this warhammer chaos rp
There aren’t that many High Elves. They’ve got Shield Bearers in Legion’s class hall.
Also, they didn’t forsake the light like the Sin’dorei group did. After all, plenty of them were Priests.
Shows four models. One of them is a High Elf.
Blood Elves didn’t have blue eyes back in Legion.
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They did. It just wasn’t a customization option yet.
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They have a dude in Mists of Panderia with blue eyes. But that being said, it’s obvious the shield bearer is a quel’dorei.
Hence why a majority of the population goes on pilgrimages to visit what they call their most “sacred” site. It’s why they, as a group, are fiercely protective of it, to the point where they were ready to exile their own people should they serve any sort of threat toward it’s sanctity. It’s why they contribute a sentience to it much in the way a person would give god “the light will protect me” we never hear them describe the Arcane, or any other force of magic in this way.
She describes the light as a force that enlightened her, that showed her the error of her ways, as if it were deity or benevolent force that helped her see the error in her ways. She describes as such when you her residing over the Blood elf Pilgrims at the Sunwell.
Lady Liadrin says: My brothers and sisters, words cannot describe what I felt upon seeing the Sunwell rekindled.
Lady Liadrin says: In that moment, the Light revealed to me the truth of the terrible things I had done.
Lady Liadrin says: Our people had walked a dark path and mine was among the darkest of them all.
Lady Liadrin says: But the Light showed me that I was not lost. It helped me to find the strength to survive in spite of all that had happened and all the evil I had wrought.
No other force of magic is described in such a way, or context. If you don’t think this is meant to parallel the religious context someone might worship their god, then you’re quite frankly blind as a bat, or too bias to admit it.
Not even close, while we might favor these systems we do not worship them to the point where we say phrases like “By the ICU!” or make regular journeys to congregate around them and bathe in their purpose. This parallel is pretty laughable.
What are you even arguing? I never implied their use of blood was a “religious belief system” that was the entire point. They utilize it like a resource or ammo, but they do not openly worship or rely upon it to the same degree they rely upon forces like the Arcane, and Light. Which are two sources they not only manipulate, but absorb into their own bodies. It has a far more significant meaning than something they’d consider a mere resource like food, or ammunition.
Your posts are beginning to meander, or you’re simply arguing points im not making.
Blood magic generally includes death, like the many blood pits in Nazmir that required countless troll sacrifices to cultivate. While they have no problem utilizing an pre-existing resource, the Blood elves aren’t about to go around sacrificing living beings or draining them of their blood to utilize it.
And “Death” includes aspects like Death Knights, and San’lyn, which also have no place among Blood elf society. In fact in the Death knight Order Hall you directly appose Lady Liadrin, and dozens of Blood elves in the Temple, another example of how the two societies clash.
I mean, you should problem take some reading comprehension classes if you can’t read my posts correctly, and go on pointless tangents about points that were never made. I’m not here to teach you how to read, please do that on your own time.
Yes, actually - When you visit the Sunwell at a later point you can see her putting heavy significance into the light beyond just a “force” meant to manipulate. She explains how it showed her the error of her ways, and enlightened her to the evils she had commited. It was not just “Oh hey, yeah this light stuff? It’s great and makes us strong.” The light goes far beyond just a resource they use, it’s an ideology.
When they forcibly took the light it put them into severe pain, to the point where calling upon it was agony for their Blood Knights.
It does though, and we can see this through Lady Liadrin when the Sunwell was restored.
Velin says,
“In time, the light and hope held within - will rebirth more than this mere fount of power… Mayhap, they will rebirth the soul of a nation.”
To which Liadrin replies
“Blessed ancestors! I feel it… so much love… so much grace… there are… no words… impossible to describe…”
We do not hear any other force of magic described in such way, because Blood elves do not view those forces of magic in any other lens then a force for them to control, but the Light represents the hope of their people, the soul of their nation. Even before the Sunwell’s rebirth the Sunwell has been described as the most important aspect of their culture, which is why it’s described as their people’s most sacred site.
The mental gymnastics is real if you’re actually trying to pretend the Light is just some resource they use, and has no profound meaning to them, because either you simply haven’t been paying attention, or you’re simply refusing to because it does not align with your agenda. Either or is equally inapporpriate.
Except we see Lady Liadrin, and her Paladins defending the church of the holy light against the Death Knight order hall, heck she is ready to give her life to protect it despite that it has no relevance or correlation to the light from the Sunwell. Not once does she refer to the Sunwell, but to the light itself when mocking the Death knights for trying to invade upon the church’s holy ground. Are you even paying attention at this point?
Except we’ve never seen any site where they worship Arcane, or protect it’s sanctity. They never refer to it as a intelligent force that has enlightened them, or helped them. The Blood elves certainly worship the light in a far different manner then they do with any other source of magic, contributing a sense of intelligence, and nobility to it. We never hear Lor’themar or any other Blood elf use phrases like “By the light!” or “For the Sunwell!” for other forces of magic like the Arcane because unlike the light they see it as merely a resource for them to control. The light is something they’ve come to respect, and even revere.
Nah, most of them simply changed their tune on what they want now. The very same people who said they’d be happy with fair skin are the same ones out here crying out for all the Blood elf customizations. Heck, read the opening post.
The Blood magic the Blood elves use does not involve death, but their use of it is relatively new, and unprecedented, where as modern Blood magic requires suffering, and death. We see this in Nazmir when we infiltrate their tribe - they literally beat, and torture their victims before tossing them into a vat of blood for their rituals. The point is that the Blood elves do not use barbaric and horrific methods of blood magic in the same way other races do.
Oh the hilarity considering half of your post is your pointless meandering over points or arguments that were never made. I have to sit here and sort through half of the pointless text to actually get even a slice of something relevant to the conversation.
It’s about as much as an asset as which arrows or swords they use, or whether or not they want to send mages, or farstriders. But they merely use these objects as sources of ammunition, they do not contribute these things as themes they worship, or revere in the same way they do the light. Your argument is weak, and grasping at straws, or simply irrelevant altogether.
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