Having a different opinion from you isn’t gatekeeping, what part of that do you not understand? Anyone in any of these threads is entitled to want or not want whatever they want or don’t want, they don’t have to cater to you or agree with you.
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Eh. they’ve resisted it mightily. We’ve asked for High Elves for 16 years. Ion’s pretty firmly against it. We finally got skin colors when they were trying to be more inclusive. But we’ve had to fight for natural hair colors.
I’m hoping they’re listening to some of their female developers now.
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It’s not psychic to look at history
You know, Blood Elves were unique until BFA, now they keep losing the visual uniqueness bit by bit
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Speaking for myself only, I find the idea of, ‘copying Blood Elves and squandering Void Elf potential,’ to be a bit… well, I think it ignores some things.
For starters, the Void Elves are already copies of Blood Elves, unfortunately. Blizzard made a very real and big mistake when they wrote Void Elves being former Blood Elves. They could’ve as easily been members of the Alliance Expedition Alleria went back to Outland to gather, or they could’ve been the Silver Covenant led by Alleria to Outland to investigate some new danger.
Instead, they were Blood Elves, which means everything about Void Elves up to the moment of their recruitment stems from Blood Elves. Their history, their culture, their lore. In essence, by not making them High Elves that had distanced themselves from Quel’Thalas all along, they’re already copies of Blood Elves.
When it comes to squandering the potential of the Void Elves, I don’t think that happens by adding High Elf customizations to them. Umbric isn’t suddenly going to turn blond. Our existing Void Elf NPCs aren’t going to suddenly have peach pink skin. Their struggles with the whispers, and goal of mastering the void for more noble pursuits, will not change because you can immerse yourself as a High Elf, while mechanically your race is Void Elf.
To summarize what are, again, my thoughts on the matter (an opinion, feel free to dismiss it), customizations will not, “Squander,” any potential Void Elves have.
The real issue in, ‘squandering their potential,’ stems from their very lackluster introduction and transformation, and Alleria’s ascendance to a master of the Void in particular. What transformed the Void Elves is not something that can be replicated, or alternatively, if it can be replicated, why would it when Alleria’s path is so much more accessible and safer? At this point I’ve seen some players ponder where all the darkened Naaru will come from for this other way of embracing the void. To that, all I can say is there are plenty of other void entities in the void. Alleria’s ascension was special, and as a lore character, it should be.
With all of this in mind, I cannot see how customization squanders the potential of the Void Elves in any way that their terribly written introduction, and Alleria’s quests in particular, haven’t already done. The harm has been irreparable. Void Elves as purple skinned, blue haired, tentacle-laden eldritch-horrors are going to logically end up a dying breed, only able to sustain themselves by recruiting more from other elven populations. That is, unless the definition of what a, ‘Void Elf,’ is remains so vague and weak that any elf wielding shadow magic qualifies.
Its an incredibly unfortunate situation, and I blame Blizzard entirely for poor writing, poor foresight, and poor implementation. Customization has done nothing to harm Void Elves compared to their own writing.
They deserve better, and we as players deserve better writing.
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Yeah. So…
Blood Elves and High Elves are different culturally.
A Void elf is pretty culturally similar to a Blood Elf.
Other than appearance they’re actually more Blood Elfy.
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But we got the botched Nightborne in trade that basically no one wants to play and unless they get fixed no matter what customizations they add people still won’t want to play. 
I just feel like Void Elves had the absolute most potential going into things, so much that could be explored with it. Then they really didn’t get much story time, and now all their additions have been rejecting that potential instead of embracing it.
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yet they want to claim how i have been so “toxic” yet im just sayng not to be so upset . They are the ones acting like karens trying to have it not happen and writing pages of lore and going because i said so .
Like why cant everyone just be happy were finally getting more customization . They did the same stuff with the skin color and eye color. It was a huge deal when they gave both void and belf blue and purple eyes .
Like its not toxic to say to stop acting like karens and relax a bit obv if they giving us more stuff they will add to belfs eventually tooo
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It’s that Horde bias
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It’s been three years of this. The years before Void Elves introduced were like… neglect by blizzard, but since Void Elves it’s just been people gate keeping other peoples fantasies.
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History which hath not yet occurred.
And mine original point yet standeth.
Asking for them to have more unique things of theyr own is patently not denying theyr uniqueness nor wish to so be.
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Yeah, totally now where’s my bee mount, freebie quests for easy item upgrades, etc.
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You were very vague indeed… as a matter of fact I´m still trying to figure out why did you need to retort in the first place, after all I never said ANYWHERE that Quel´lithien elves and issues didn´t exist. I just said not ALL the Helves went to the Alliance becasue they got exiled and that some literally made the choice to leave Quel´thalas by their own volition.
I´m perfectly aware of this. but I like to see her raging like my younger cousin used to when mommy denied her dessert for NOT eating her vegetables (the fact I don´t have to lift a finger to expose her bad behaviour is pure gold… she does my work for me, amazing).
Dude, the announcement probably involves the normal haircolors USING Belf haircuts. It´s the easiest way (I mean the devs took A LOT of time merely to change underwear most players hardly ever show, you think they can modify regular Velf hairstyles as soon as they imply they will? LOL).
You guys are basically a proverbial milimeter of achieving your clone, congrats. After munching on it it will help me too, cause after this only the literal deluded portion of your fanclub will come to the Belf or Void Velf thread to bring once again the “Helfer” point.
Not giving them actual attention is the actual way to deal with these kind of individuals.
Droves them mad. And actually, this is how Blizz devs suggest players to deal with harrasement (i know that because the girlfriend of our tank in MoP had these issue with some ex-boyfriend in-game. Happily, the guy got bored and left her alone after a while, though she had to put ALL his characters on the “ignore” list. Devs only intervened in thye actual life of the harrased was under real menace (and then I remmeber the lawsuit and Cosby suite and well… now we know why Blizz were so “relaxed” regading females getting harrased).
Literally, her only contribution tothe threads as been “NUHH, U!!” and telling over and over how much the Velf model deserved to get the stuff they wanted and that next thgey should get pallies and so on…
Nothing implies any legitimate interest in giving constructive stuff to the Belves.
Well, yes. Or are you A-Ok with Worgen getting ALL their skins implemented (eye colors and all) on Tauren, Pandaren and Vulpera cause lul, visual distinction is SO last decade!!?
Hypocritical, poster is hypocritical. “Belves don´t need exclusive stuff BUT the other races dfo cause it´s MUH way or the Highway!!” /facepalm
Indeed, lack of self awareness IS a requirement to join your fanclub.
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I wish I could agree, but looking at it logically, they were a doomed race from the start.
Increasing their numbers is a big issue, since they are so few to begin with. How do they do this? Can they try to replicate the ritual the Ethereal used to transform them to begin with? Considering it was interrupted at a very specific point, it seems like it’d be a death sentence to not get it absolutely right. Even then, Alleria came first, she retains her High Elven appearance, and her method of studying the void and gaining that power is the superior method, to the point that even after Umbric and his followers were transformed, they studied Alleria’s method, because otherwise they’d have been lost to the Void.
Given all of that, how do they procreate? They can’t just have offspring like most races, any Void Elf infant would be assailed by whispers before they’re even out of the womb. It’s madness. This is a race that cannot exist forever.
Blizzard messed up.
The problem with Allied Races is that we’re supposed to already have experienced their stories through content. Void Elves were the only exception, but making them the exception to story time out of all other Allied Races wouldn’t be fair.
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Worgen are not tauren.
Void elves are blood elves, outcast from Thalassian society proper and by the great shadow afflicted though they be.
In answer, though, I will say that I would laugh heartily at the ridiculous looking cows.
Now now, that is not at all what was said.
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I kinda agree with this.
I do think that not adding new void based options isn’t helpful to keeping the race to its general theme and instead draws them closer to being high elves… which in many ways makes me sad.
I’m fine with folk getting their options to RP. Now its done I’m also not really interested in complaining. No point after all.
I do hope that blizzard gives us more lore for Void Elves, builds up the Telogrus Rift filling out all five islands, with buildings and training spaces. Hopefully along the way showing new void Elves being made.
My concern is that they won’t expand that angle because they’ll focus more efforts on high elves. I know its a bit silly. But its there.
Its not as fun for me to see high elf options when I’m not interested in them in general. Happy my high elven brethren got their options. But less enthused myself.
I imagine the best solution is a cross between Alleria’s path shown and refined by her and Locus-Walker, while Umbric and his followers use their own knowledge to recreate a slightly more controlled version of the trap the Void Ethereals used on them.
Training for some months or a year under Alleria/Locus-Walkers new refined training regime, plus a ritual to infuse the void essence.
Probably from that Void Storm on the third island. (I hope to see a big ole tower built around it to contain and control its power for use in the ritual.)
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That’s the whole reason why Alliance should have gotten something like Broken Draenei instead of Void Elves, not that many people would have liked that but it’s how it should have went.
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Silver lining is that their vocal naysaying has made the requests for things like hair color for void elves easier. Most communities require years to even get to 8k posts when it comes to race customization but thanks to their complaining they’ve made it easier. It’s such sweet karmic justice to know that their attempted at gate keeping backfires so spectacularly.
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you guys over the past couple years have actively been trying to deny void elfs natural hair colors , and blue eyes etc and look what happened blizz gave us those options so yes it is up to blizzard to decide . so yes you guys are karens deal with it . Not sorry you are all upset that i called you that .
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The problem is a sort of fake authoritive statement that only request for additions are valid that is a common toxic thread in this discussion. People have things they appreciate and things they do not. You can’t advocate for protecting something you are fond of by requesting new things, sometimes you have to just say “Hey, I like this as it is, can we leave it like that?” And that’s just as valid as asking for a copy of it. But some people who want new things create this rule that saying no to some things is a negative character trait and not a difference of opinions, and that causes problems.
And when someone who is advocating taking more and more unique things from the Blood elves yells at people who liked the prior status, that’s just horrid behavior. Their requests are flat out denying others the uniqueness that they seem to say they should want. So we have got to figure out how to change what we like to be unique because they just can’t deal with how the story was told.
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