Viking Mog

Really like what’s been made everyone! I’m deciding what pieces are truly my favorite and the most easily obtainable.

Does anyone remember what level reqs are for mogging gear for each xpac?

Thanks!

Traditional dwarf vikings use axes… I think this axe would go great with your theme of horns and tusks:

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I got that two days ago hahaha!

Gul’dan: Claim your destiny!

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Do you know the level req to mog that?

Probably 90, since it drops in SoO

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I’m 70 as of now, so how far can I go? Cata? MoP?


What about a Tabard? Thoughts?

You should be able to mog it as soon as you hit 90. Maybe 85? I’m not too sure.

I’d go without a tabard, personally.

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Actually, if you want to get obtusely technical about real-world origins of mythological beings used for inspiration in our grand Warcraft world, the origin of dwarves/dwarfs is historically traced to either German or Norse roots, though it’s unclear as to who first recorded tales of small, stout people who lived under the ground and were renowned for metalsmithing and mining.

Technically, the Norse dvergr (dwarves) are more or less interchangeable with the Norse svartálfar (dark elves), though their respective homes (Nidavellir and Svartalfheim) are mentioned together in multiple texts, so we’ll just ignore that. :stuck_out_tongue:

Both the Norse Poetic Edda, compiled in the 1200s from earlier sources, and Middle High Germanic folktales from around the same period (dated between 1050 and 1350) portray dwarves as stout beings stronger than mortal men and possessed of great abilities with metalsmithing, who live under the ground or in hollow mountains. They generally interact with heroes or even adventure alongside them, and the Norse depictions of dwarfs as being like old men with long beards, specifically, inspired J.R.R. Tolkien’s dwarves in the Lord of the Rings series (he even used names of dwarfs from Völuspá, the first poem in the Poetic Edda, such as Dwalin, Dain, Gandalf, Thrain, Dain, Durin… actually, pretty much all of them). Overall, though, the two depictions of dwarfs line up so well (and attest the same things, such as a mythical land inhabited by dwarfs and giants called Nibelung, from which the came name for Nibelung, a staff from ICC that can sometimes summon a val’kyr) that they’re effectively interchangeable when it comes to mythological beings.

Warcraft dwarves pull inspiration from both Germanic and Norse dwarfs, though they’re really heavy into the Norse depictions specifically, where dwarfs were borne of the primordial giant Ymir (from whom much of the world was made, more or less mirroring how Warcraft dwarves were originally Earthen, made from the earth/being of the planet/Titan Azeroth). Less the Scottish accents that most all dwarves ended up with in popular culture, they’re pretty much spot-on for Norse dwarfs, including sharing similar origins with the Vrykul, who are literally Warcraft vikings that coincidentally wear horned helmets. :wink:


TL;DR: Vikings and dwarfs in folktales go hand-in-hand, much like WoW “vikings” (Vrykul) and WoW dwarves. Warcraft versions, though, are built around stereotypes, like dwarves with Scottish accents and Vrykul in horned helmets. :stuck_out_tongue:


Keeping this a bit more on-topic, though:

Level thresholds for transmog are as follows:

Level 1-58: Classic
Level 58-80: BC/Wrath
Level 80-90: Cata/MoP
Level 90-98: WoD
Level 98-110: Legion
Level 110-120: BfA

So far pretty much everything I’ve unlocked the appearance of from BfA is transmoggable from 110 onward, and that seems to follow suit with the other expansions. Basically, once you hit a given minimum level, you can transmog everything from the relevant expansion(s). :wink:

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Should be transmoggable from 80 onward; I put a list of all the thresholds at the end of my probably-too-long dissertation about how vikings and dwarves are fairly interchangeable and stereotypes are pretty much what WoW is all about (see also: humans being feudal lords and kings with castles, magisters, and thatched-roof cottages). :wink:

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Wow.

Thanks SO much for this, really fantastic work; I was familiar with the roots of Dwarves as a race in folklore, and is hence why I couldn’t see a better theme for my dwarf. I’ve always enjoyed Nordic culture myself AND have some Nordic ancestral roots, so I really had my mind set on it as a theme.

You really helped out enormously with that one man, major kudos.

OH, and my Dwarf Paladin’s name (Who I can not post as for some reason - 5 toons take his place) is ‘Dvärgak’, derived from the Swedish ‘Dvärg’ meaning Dwarf.

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however, the vikings would have seen dwarves as outsiders, not as fellow vikings. what is interesting is that we know viking swords were commonly made from steel imported from central asia, i wonder if the myth of dwarves was based on their interpretations of some group of traders or blacksmiths.

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haha, I think we posted right at the same time. That’s awesome info! Thank you for that!

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It’s really a good question. Don’t mind this getting OT if this is where we’re heading :smiley:

The vikings may have respected dwarves as mythological creatures of the gods, though.

Or they might’ve raided their underground homes for their finely crafted armor and weapons.

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I sought to supply a few fresh options for axes, seeking to speak primarily of less-obtusely-ostentatious ones that spout flames or crackle with lightning (thought that could ostensibly be provided by the proper enchantment appearance should you require):

https://www.wowhead.com/item=7761/steelclaw-reaver https://www.wowhead.com/item=66876/sharp-edge-of-balance https://www.wowhead.com/item=94028/zandalari-head-cleaver

The last is perhaps particularly garish, though if you’re seeking somewhat subtle stereotypes, adorning the head of your weapon with the skull of a slain enemy may be of use. I, myself, heartily suggest Ironfoe if you’re not overtly opposed to a hammer:

https://www.wowhead.com/item=11684/ironfoe

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I am not opposed to anything recommended by you, oh eloquent Blood Elf.

These are very apt and suitable suggestions; Many thanks.


Those of you who have suggested all afternoon, wow.

Can’t thank you all enough.

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Dwarves are usually portrayed more as otherworldly beings, who would probably be revered by vikings for their skill in metalworking (they forged Thor the thunder-god’s hammer Mjolnir on a dare from Loki, for instance). In Germanic folktales they would sometimes help or oppose heroes, including Alberich, a dwarf who first guarded the Nibelung’s treasure but later joined the hero that defeated him (Siegfried). Alberich was also immortalized in an Old Norse collection of German legends called Thidreksaga, albeit under the name Alfrikr.

So I guess “hand-in-hand” is a bit much, though the legends definitely interpolate pretty strongly. :wink:

This handsome fella? Looking good. :wink:

And I’m glad to help, I usually go too far with these things and I’m just glad someone enjoyed the amount of too-much-detail I threw in there. I’m Irish by descent, we don’t know how to make a long story short and cannot fathom why anyone would try. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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HAHA YES! You see him!

At 70, after having just returned since WoD, I was happy with what I had thus far!

I really appreciate you going ‘too far’, as that is very reflective of my own personality, and allows for some constructive and enjoyable conversation.

Feel free to keep sharing - I am loving this :smiley:

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It’s my pleasure to help. I love transmog and helping people put together cool sets! The actual folklore behind the origin of fantasy dwarves has been super interesting… and a fantastic distraction from work.

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