Anyone figured out about what percentage vers is less useful than Stam stacking on a squishy class? Shadowlands it was the 32-35% area but feels different now.
how do you stack stam?
Gems and enchants
Don’t think it will be until really, really high amounts of vers, or if on a class with % based stam increase or % based healing in abundance.
well my ele is 420 ilvl and my ww seems to be topping out on vers helping me live at all
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this sounds much more like a product of vers DR than anything else
this isn’t tankspot
i think you’d want vers > stam still because of the thruput increase on healing and damage, maybe if ur playing Brimming with Life and Nature’s Guardian and you have an rsham and sp on your team giving you fort and ancestral vigor then maybe you could argue stam vs a team that tries to 100-0 you in a stun every game but seems to niche to swap gems for
i found the stamina gems ty, i couldnt find any enchants where you’re choosing between vers or stam tho
have you played monk against a demo lock? i need to figure out a way to not be running constantly and still dying anyways
16.12/ 27.34 vers before stacking stam.
1.27 vers to 36,156 health
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Wow… you’re amazing… that is huge
I made it up, sorry 
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2+2 is 4 minus 1 that’s 3 quick maff.
Lets go with an average health of 350,000 on a class without stamina modifiers right now.
Lets assume a full set of PvP gear = 30% versatility - 15% damage reduction.
Effective health is 350,000 * 1.15 = 402500 damage to kill.
1 stamina gives ~21.19 health. 400 versatility gives 1% damage reduction.
The best versatility gem is 88 versatility. (1/400)*88= 0.22% damage reduction per versatility gem.
The best stamina gem is 102 stamina and also includes 33 versatility. (1/400)*33= 0.0825% damage reduction and 102x21.19= 2162.392 health.
Lets add these to our initial setup:
350,000*(1+((15+0.22)/100))= 403,270 effective health after adding +88 vers gem.
352,162*(1+((15+0.0825)/100))= 405,277 effective health after adding +102 stam +33 vers gem.
So for pure survival the 102 stam 33 vers gems beats out the 88 vers gem. If your class has any stamina modifiers like DK or Warlock for example, then the stamina gem pulls further ahead.
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Just remembered one other thing: Stats from 30 to 39% are diminished by 10% which make everything I calculated for versatility 10% weaker since our baseline was exactly 30% versatility and any gems will put it above 30. This only further increases the value of the stamina gems.
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Stamina and versa mean thing, when you can be hit for your whole health bar in 1 sec or less. This has become a Sniper game, one shot one kill.
that’s the monk experience sry to say i think you’re only gonna escape that if you get a whole team to play way pushed up with you and win enough games in the opener that losing at the minute mark is infrequent
99% of the time Versa will be less effective. Not to mention you already in DR for Versa and talents don’t benefit Versa at all. Where as most specs gain benefit from stamina bonuses, buffs or increase HP.
Higher HP means you aren’t instantly the kill target in every round of SS. Lol