Bring back reforginggggggggg
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Keep versatility, and, hear me out, bring back resilience. Yes yes, I know I know, pvp is dead and all that good jazz but having resilience back would be nice.
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This is how mastery should be. Something more active. Just not a passive +more damage stat.
As a fire mage, no.
Versatility is the only stat thatâs always useful for everyone.
Why on earth would they get rid of it.
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Itâs pretty much only really a PvP stat at this point. Or for tanks, maybe?
I feel most DPS have a more desirable stat to chase.
PvP gear is high in vers, PvE gear generally doesnât have it at all, at least not in high amounts.
Itâs useful for PvP defense, having high amounts of it.
What?
I just donât know what to say to this. Except that itâs wrong, of course.
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I just know, for my class specifically, itâs our most valued stat alongside mastery.
For PvE, it is the least-desired stat by far. I assume, for other classes, itâs the same. Well, not monks.
Probably why I donât bother with doing PvE outside of casual play- I donât want to keep two sets of gear updated.
I just donât see much PvE gear with it, but mostly all PvP pieces have vers on them.
Itâs basically replaced resilience.
It would help latter game pvp where retail can lose some balance and can get bursty as hell.
When I last I did full retail focus I could be in top non rate pvp gear, vers chants and gems. And was getting deleted.
It had me go soâŚI could be in here in trash greens really lol. I worked to be face plantedâŚsigh.
Vers plus resilience would get that to 2 or 3 shots at least.
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Depends on the classâŚmonks for instance, their 2nd stat priority was versatility(I havenât kept up with their stat priority in years but they were stacking that few years back.)
Indeed. Meanwhile, Haste is as close as you can get to a zero-value stat, for us.
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Itâs still #1 stat for monks, afaik.
But Monks always had weird/poor scaling, that might be why lol.
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If your Mastery is bad (and Mastery is wholly dependent on whether the devs did a good job with that specâs mastery or not), and Haste is useless, that leaves Vers & Crit. Scaling has nothing to do with it.
I thought it was just the whole % damage increase (stacking vers), double-dipping along with other abilities that do % increase to damage done like Serenity, which made it so strong to stack.
And then the mastery bonus on top of that, which is an additional % increase if itâs not a repeat move- Monks have a lot of just â% increase damageâ which is crazy when the stars align with cooldowns.
I guess every class has that to some extent.
Just wondering why Monks of all classes still stack Vers in PvE, when idk if any other class does.
Masteryâs okay. Itâs just not nearly as good as Crit & Vers.
Haste, meanwhile, is garbage and is to be avoided at all costs.
The Rogues want every Crit/Vers item that drops, same as me.
It seems to vary by spec, I havenât played rogue in forever tbh.
Outlaw wants those stats, but the other two specs want a little different.
I guess Iâm always curious as to why certain specs want specific stats, but Iâll probably never understand unless I know those classes inside and out, I only really know Hunters like that lol.
Itâs not nearly as straightforward as it used to be, where everyone would just stack one stat like armor pen lol, like in TBC.
Iâve watched people with versatility be really good at the game so I would disagree with people who think it should be removed.
You can probably stack vers on a bunch of specs in m+ and do just fine provided your gameplay is clean. For some specs it might feel like garbage to play (resource starved due to lack of haste / stuff procs on crit). But it really isnt the end of the world until youâre doing mythic raids or high rank m+ where optimal damage will make or break a timer/dps check.
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Hmm, maybe I should give M0 and M+ a try then.
Iâm decently geared enough to start, just figured itâd be too much of a hassle with gearing.
I enjoyed doing them back in Legion.
Versatility also becomes more valuable as you do more difficult fights, since the fights actually start to become dangerous.
If youâre fortunate enough to have Vers as an optimal stat, you also become a lot tougher as a side bonus.
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