Venruki, the peoples champ has spoken ..... again

PVP Arenas
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Blizzard has touched on this a number of times. In the end, the PvE players are the ones that complain and PvP gear is nerfed accordingly.

While I’m sure you know, most of this is due to inflation. They really need to figure out a better system then the current one to deal with the lack of rating OR more aggressively inflate mmr early, then drop it off.

Over all though, they really do need another way to offer rewards. Likely a mix of both %/rankings and CR.

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Havent watched the video and by his ugly thumbnail whats his point? That everyone should have a gladiator mount? Why?

If right now only 0.5% get the mount thats his ideal threshold? 15%? 25?

Alright make gladiator 2100 lets say… what is that gonna acomplish?

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Why do people not watch the video and then complain?

Lots of pathetic in this thread

LOTS

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Where have I once gone on a “wahhh boo-hoo game is bad :frowning: daddy blizzard make me happy” rant?

Ven is a grown man who makes a living crying over a video game.

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They introduced shuffle which made getting 2400 infinitely easier.

The armor set unlocks at 1800 which you can obtain very quickly if you know how to do your rotation

The enchant is only 2100 instead of 2400 which again, is way easier with shuffle.

Just be honest and say you guys want this stuff automatically handed it for logging in.

Dps rotations are 4 buttons deep and everyone reading these threads have addons to supplement awareness what exactly is so hard about the game

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Exactly. Outside of glad, everything is essentially free thanks to shuffle.

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Ugh there’s friction for me to unlock rewards in a competitive game mode that is so unfair!

What they should do is not inflate the ladder at all and make the seasons short that way it’s not as easy but it stays consistent season to season

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I dont watch wow youtube, but this is a topic that has been beaten to death. So I am gonna assume he is saying whatever Ive already seen here

So tell me mr youtube what are his proposed solutions? Becayse that thumbnail already gave me bad tingles

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Go read the other threads peoole are comolaining that even with rss they cant get 1800 or whatever. It feels like they dont want to work for nothing

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Finding people who play a meta DPS and likes 2s.

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Someone ive never heard of referring to themselves in third person - check

Putting an overrated streamer on a pedastal in hopes of gaining clout from the association with them - check

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So, what’s the situation now, you may ask?

2.4+ EU
2v2 = 110 … max. #63251 → 1201 cr
3v3 = 393 … max. #32967 → 1201 cr
RSS = 1143 … max. #73828 → 1501 cr

2.4 NA
2v2 = 59 XD … max. #58093 → 1201 cr
3v3 = 602 … max. #37169 → 1201 cr
RSS = 1228 … max. #79405 → 1501 cr

What does this tell us?
Now, let’s pretend it was the entire playerbase (which we know it’s not):
2.4+ EU
2v2 - top 0.174 %
3v3 - top 1.192 %
RSS - top 1.548 %

2.4+ NA
2v2 - top 0.102 % (this is effectively equal to R1 of a bracket)
3v3 - top 1.619 %
RSS - top 1.547 %

I don’t know about crying or asking for handouts or really care what peoples opinion on streamers is. LOL

I have never asked for handouts or have the expectation of handouts. That being said, what I take away from this is 2’s is the hardest bracket to climb in. Solo shuffle is the most popular game mode followed by 2’s then 3’s (this does not include all the people under 1200 and 1500cr from the numbers if I am reading this right).

Now what was brought up in the video was the question of participation based stuff, not giving away glad, that’s silly. I guess one fluffy moonbeast is not enough of a participation award, or at least enough to get people to participate longer or more than just at the end of the season.

More rewards can help, if done right. I think you can add too with out taking away from the top players.

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People can 100% ask for more participation rewards. And if that what this thread and the video is about then go for it sure.

But that thumbnail and the names I recognize in here, have been asking for things like making gladiator a number of games played reward or having % cutoffs for all brackets (this is the funniestbbecause they are banking on blizzard making the %s easier than they currently are when in reality if thwy implement %based rewards they may never even sniff 1800).

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I totally agree with his video. PVP participation will continue to tank if things remain as they are. Big changes need to be made.

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changes such as ?

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What rewards do you want? You already get mog sets, enchantments, mounts, etc.

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How PVP could be improved:

  1. Remove all the tedious gear requirements for instanced PVP (Arena, RBG, Solo Shuffle). Why do I have to craft gear and buy gems and all that nonsense when gear stat creep IS RESPONSIBLE FOR IMBALANCE AND PROBLEMS WITH PVP!?!?! You know what would help solve it? Take gear out of instanced PvP. If the current season’s gear has too much mastery on it so certain specs overperform. . . utilize scalable benchmarks to remove the negative impact of gear stat calculations. We need to LOWER the barrier to entry for casual players in arenas, not raise it.
  2. Make NEW ARENA MODES that will reveal some HARD TRUTHS about arenas (healing is lame is the truth). These would be. . . 2v2 DPS ONLY, 2v2 Solo Shuffle (dps only and open), 1 Round ONLY Solo Shuffle. What would SKYROCKET in participation? 2v2 DPS only. FAST GAMES. AGGRESSIVE PLAYSTYLE. This would cater to casual PvPers and serve as an entry point to arenas. KEEP AWC 2DPS +1 Heal 3v3 and it will be viewed as “standard” and people will want to be good at it.
  3. OVERHAUL PVP UI: Why isn’t there a dedicated arena frames with DR trackers? Blizard could implement their OWN pvp addons so new players and casual players will be able to adjust to these tools.
  4. PRUNE. PRUNE. PRUNE. Every class has at least 1 or 2 recently created abilities that totally debauche PVP. These need to be disabled. There are way too many instant cast micro-CCs when you get 3 classes together that can make matches obnoxious. A LOT of the recently created abilities are just poorly implemented borrowed power from the recent crappy expansions. Why keep them around? Maybe they make Mythic+ pushes possible? Ok fine, but then disable them in pvp.
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This is the only reasonable suggestion you provided

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I literally posted an entire thread suggesting a parallel to the rating system which would be a participation system so these cases can rewards players in this fashion but not by handout; by total wins. The unhappy, elitist, boosting providers mass reported it. The OP is right. The redditors are right. This game mode (PvP) is literally miserable if you don’t do it every day. shrug

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Dude still doesn’t understand that had the CM who removed the thread thought it was a genuine suggestion and not obvious trolling, the thread would still be up

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