VDH is 4 key levels above most tanks, 3 above 2nd highest

Yes

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Oh ok, I genuinely couldn’t tell haha.

And yeah trash is crappy in DF.

Aka not completely brain dead like most older dungeons trash.

Keys are already a joke difficulty for their rewards.

reading through this thread has made me realize that blizzard fully has 0% understanding about anything related whatsoever in terms of “balance” and lack there of

The thing is, let them have keep sigils for sure, but not illuminated sigils. Just nerf their survivability, it’s such an obvious nerf. They won’t be able to tank such a huge pulls with their parry/armor being nerfed. Right now, no tank can hold such a huge pulls with their current kit. And since devs are not interested at all in buffing other tanks, vdh survivability nerf has to happen. It’s so obvious for everyone except for devs and adepts of “i am just a dps bot, i don’t want to press my cc and interrupts, it’s good that vdh can solo cc the entire pack”.

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Bolstering/Fortified this early in the season messed up a lot of players who weren’t aware of all the deadly trash mechanics. Every dungeon has trash mechanics that get really deadly with even a few stacks of bolster, whether for the tank or group.

Prot warriors weren’t gods that tier. Paladin was the best tank. You don’t even know the facts. Every tank was within about 1 key level. Every single one lol

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Lol S1 was bad have you play a guardian druid in S1? It was day and night when you playback protection warrior vs guardian druid. Lol the That just shows you have zero idea what you are talking about.

The game has never had perfect balance, but S1 even with its outliers is the closest we’ve ever really had while dungeons have had a competitive setting.

We have the data for class representation per season in title range. S1 skewed towards paladin by the end and warrior had its flowers at the start, but DK Brew and DH didn’t trail by much at all. Bear it’s unfortunate but even being the worst it still saw much more success than the “Worst” tank has in any season after that.

Then past tanks we had every healer but holy priest really at the top of the ladder, and dps there were 11 specs on the front page alone.

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Really ? With no notes announced prior ?

Protection warrior wasn’t the best tank spec in season 1. What is wrong with you people, just go to raider. io and learn before speaking.

Top paladin was 3634.6 (best tank spec)
Top warrior was 3542.4 io
Top druid was 3478.9 (worst tank spec)

This is a difference of one or two key levels, or 155.7 io.

Top DH right now is 3615.1 (best tank spec)
Top Warrior is 3224.1 (worst tank spec)

A difference of about 3-4 key levels or 391 io

Either you are being intentionally obtuse or you really need to learn how to read / research.

That’s what they’re trying to say, hence ‘inclusive’ instead of ‘exclusive’.

Except S2 but that was S2 and we all know why that happened, lol.

LETS GOOOOOOOOOO.

A relatively small tap honestly. Still shocked they left double sigils in.

lol and the total % of the different tanks will tell you a different story. Any keys 20 and up for S1 would show that Brew and Guardian is less than 10% each 25+ and key is maily port pally since they got buff mid season I believe.

Ans your so call data for S4 is only been 2 weeks wait till near end of season and come back. Bet you the VDH% will go down while Port pally goes up.

I’ll take it to be honest. Those are pretty hefty nerfs on the frequency of x2 sigils.

Kind of weird they nerfed brew master though. Small buff wouldve been perfect.

Despite defensive / utility issues, brew damage is also something no tank should be able to accomplish.

Yeah but it given its lack of utility, it is like all it has going for it. That tank is going to bottom frag hard now.

yeah I don’t necessarily agree it’s the right angle to take, but I can see how it ended up on the block.

Liking this because you straight up called it. :rofl:

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