Vault will require 3/6/12 Delves in 11.1

I love delves but I don’t have the attention span for 3/6/12.

Further proving the majority of the solo community is the most toxic entitled player base in the game.

I’m not too surprised to be honest I’m just not going to play the game that Blizz is stacking the deck on in this situation.

Will probably just mean an earlier start to M+ for me next season.

I honestly don’t understand why everyone is so upset. Is it because this is the first time the delve row is changing?

There are going to be 5 bountiful delves up a day, and more delves to choose from. Of course they’re going to increase the amount of delves needed for the vault.

When a raid has more bosses than the previous season, they up the amount of bosses need for the 3 vault spots. I think Liberation of Undermine is still an 8 boss raid, so it should be the same amount of bosses per slot.

The few seasons we’ve had 10 dungeons instead of 8, they upped the amount of dungeons needed per slot.

There’s more content available to do, so you need to do more content for the rewards.

Wait we’re getting 5 bountifuls?

This is new to me

I read it earlier in the thread, so if I’m mistaken then my bad. But if true? It makes sense. If not true then I understand why people are upset.

The current reward structure for delves is 2/4/8
Modifying that to 3/6/12 next season

Lets apply the same to M+ which is 1/4/8
Being generous 2/6/12 next season

How’s that look?

Mythic raider pissed he “has” (or had) to do delves to keep his raid spot maybe?

Cool. You ready to admit you only mythic raid for the loot, too, and not the “challenging gameplay” or the “social experience”? Let’s see mythic raids reward nothing but an achievement in your log that literally no one but you will look at and see if you still do them.

People like solo play. People like loot. Blizzard likes profit. Do the math, and hold the salt.

Not like most people of even average skill are relying on delve vault for their gear progression.

I’ll wait to see the total reward structure before I judge. I’m usually gearing up a couple alts at at time. The crest conversion changes and the addition of gilded crests to t11 will speed things up enough that I should be able to do fewer alts at a time but finish each one faster.

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This is good but doesn’t really change key acquisition. 5 bountifuls up in a day just means you can deplete most/all of your keys in a single day. I’m not sure why 4 wasn’t already fine (in fact better) tbh. 4 was flush with your vault requirement for 2 options. Now you have 1 fewer bountiful up each day than is required for a 2 option vault.

Also big improvement. More delves is good.

This doesn’t actually follow as an “of course” from any of those other changes imo. It’s just in addition to these things.

You aren’t most people though lol and you’re also not making a big fuss over it.

Make delves comparative in difficulty and sure.

Until then no.

I’m well aware of how it works. Which is a problem in and of itself. But you clearly missed the point of the post with every “good” change, a bad one comes with it.

X to doubt.

Press X to doubt your doubt.

See I can make meaningless posts too.

That’s simply great vault.
And that’s fine by me honestly.

Not even slightly lol don’t Mythic raid. I’m just calling out double standards is all.

I don’t mythic raid. I do m+ and i do it because it’s fun for me. Any and all gear is simply a byproduct of me doing the content I enjoy. You can easily check my history and see that I didn’t and do not farm 8s for the gilded crests to max out my ilvl and trivialize content.

more solo play for the same rewards = win on both ends. Unless people really like just getting to the end so they can complain they have nothing else to do? If people really enjoyed solo play, they’d just play the game mode they enjoy and let loot come and go as is.

As far as the great vault goes: 3 delves = 12 delves. It’s an extra 10 minutes a week.

Not really, if you’re making a fuss over doing 4 more delves then your op can be considered meaningless.

You already did. Multiple in fact.

Just curious where the extra coffer keys will come from. I’m guessing the 4 cartels will be a source for them now…

i dunno, i feel like if you joined a paid carry group you could fill out those raid slots lightning fast :thinking: