Vanilla PvP honor system update

Sounds like you need to join a PvP guild

Premades lose to pugs all the time tho

I have long championed for separate solo and group queues. Even so, if most premades were trade channel pugs in a discord or 2-6 guildmates/friends pvping for the heck of it I don’t think there would be as much of an outcry.

This is so true. I didn’t play Classic Era that hardcore, but I solo queued to rank 10, and by far (for me at least) the worst thing that I found in BGs was people who would give up and call for their team to as well.

“It’s a pre-made, just stop reviving.” Or “let them cap.”

Imo, that sort of behavior should result in BG bans. On the other hand, I’ve had games when a half decent flag carry or unexpected cap can result in boosting even those nay sayers’ morale and getting everyone back into the game.

It is an MMO make friends form a group and get good. Stop making excuses. Stop trying to turn this into retail single player game

What a long discussion about premades… when most premades rn are about “you dude u got a full blue pvp set? hop in!”
If they end premades and people keeps losing then everyone will be mad due gear gaps.

I mean if we going down this road then i demand a ilvl system too where i wont have to face people and their naxx/2.5 gear against my blue pvp+dg items set. I dont care if they are premading o not, i dont want to face them ever too. Once you queue with said gear you cant change the gear till you get out of the BG, done.
“oh im nxax geared” well guess you will need to wait 2 hours in the queue honey, because THIS IS FAIR LOL.

On a serious note I genuely think that aside the decay the current system is ok you dont have punish people that play with other people or just played the game for longer than you.

I am not spending gold in consumables and even i can take care of myself against people that vastly outgear me evne though the disavantage is crystal clear.

There isnt a pramater to quantify skill in classic era because its was not created with that concept in mind.
All of its systems are linked to time spent efficently plus RNG and nothing else.

It was created with the following concept: I will have The biggest sword, run around with the most amazing ornaments, with the most incredible potions just so i can utterly destroy everything. And honestly thats fine, its fun enough

But by no means it will ever be classified as a competitive game no matter how people sweaty hard on it.

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Why did blizzard host competitive tournaments then?

It isnt non competitive because “you think so”. Competition is made by the playerbase.

If you don’t want to spend money on consumables as you say, then fine. People who will, have an edge tho.

You aren’t really selling your product here, you sound like you’re just making up a bunch of excuses. People with gear get stomped on all the time by people with less

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In short: MMORPG PvP is a memesport.

video games have never been “Sports” so there is that.

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dude i hurt my finger bad playing pong back in the day
that was some real exertion boy i tell you what

also this sounds fun

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only counts if you use the paddle

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