This isn’t even the discussion I’m having right now.
Im talking about valorstones drops and the paths of progression.
Follower dungeons are for learning dungeons/roles not for power progression, i think i found your issue. Theyre way slower idk how youre getting less than farming normals
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lol - I knew it.
Someone that is only going to do follower dungeons will be doing no other dungeons. They won’t be going into heroic or mythic plus dungeons. They need progression as well and they will have their gear maxed out at a lower ilvl than someone who does heroic and then mythic.
You have progression.
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Upgrading valorstone gear is an option if you feel like you need an edge in the game. Its not too hard to upgrade the greens and they max out at 580 gear, which is above heroic tier. It takes about 300 stones per piece of gear, which as i mentioned above is about 1 hour of dungeon grinding.
The blue gear goes up to like 596 or something similar, which is, i believe, above LFR gear. But it costs like 600 per piece, and requires weathered crests.
The gear upgrades are an optional system to allow you a better amount of growth within the same tier. You can have all greens on and only do normal dungeons, and still hit 580 ilvl. But theyre not meant to progress infinitely.
You do get a discount on both valorstone (warbound wide) and crests (character only) if your gear has ever been higher ilvl than the item you’re upgrading.
So if you upgrade a green to 580, that blue 571 youre now upgrading is cheaper until hit hits 580.
Its not a huge help but it does at least mean its not a ‘mistake’ to spend it on the easier gear.
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You knew what.
This is LITERALLY not what I’m talking about.
Now I’m actually having to repeat myself which leads me to believe you’re the actual troll.
Im talking about valorstones drops and how low they are. The drops in heroics needs to be beefed up.
I SAID THIS up above. You either are not reading what I’m saying or you are trolling.
you claimed you were talking about paths of progression which is what I am talking about. I am now going to look into your armory if you are a heroic raider I am not responding to you again.
You can get 30+ from doing a world quest, and 10 from a follower dungeon isn’t too bad when they take longer atm than a speedy group blasting through normals in 3 minutes.
I don’t believe this is correct. It may ONLY be correct if you’re a tank.
It’s 10 per boss. Then 30 when you finish. So 4 bosses x 10. Plus 30? 70 a dungeon?
You’re only able to spam dungeons like that if you’re a tank.
You can maybe get 2 or 3 dungeons done an hour. Max.
Well, yea. Because those pretty purples are right around the corner.
What are you actually complaining about?
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Thats fair, my numbers might be schewed because I am in fact a tank, so the longest queue I’ve ran into was like 2 minutes.
I’m not sure how it looks nowadays, but during EA there were ‘fast dungeon runs’ groups in the groupfinder premade tab, who literally would run the same dungeon (usually priory) on repeat. You might have some luck with those.
Valorstones drops being too low. Or the upgrade costs being too high.
I think he finds heroic dungeons hard. I don’t normally do dungeons but the first one I did this expansion was a follower dungeon for that quest. I had to abandon the dungeon because I couldn’t figure out what to do and the tank just stood there doing nothing. I went and did the normal version of the dungeon and we flew through it and then I had to go back and do the follower dungeon because normal wouldn’t give me credit for the quest.
I am doing the normal dungeons now as a training ground for the follower dungeons in case I need to do them later for some reason.
I probably will do heroic dungeons as well because heroic dungeons always end up faster than normal dungeons once people are geared.
I am the audience for those follower dungeons and they just want to make me pull my hair out.
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I… the first 24 hours since launch isn’t even over, and here you are…
Never change general discussion…
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Literally reporting your post at this point.
did you forgot this is what you said at the start?
You’re saying just progress to the harder more rewarding content? Yes I agree that sounds like progression to me. Maybe we’re all struggling with defining progression. To me if something is more difficult and more rewarding it is a step up the progression ladder, which is true of follower dungeons all the way to m +10.
The lack of increase in the now-uncapped seasonal currency between the first tiny steps up the ladder seems insignificant imo
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Why? He responded to me. And wasn’t insulting in the least. Put me there too, then go learn what patience is, because you sound like an entitled brat crying you can have all the things on the first day. Don’t you have professions to level?
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Well I agree doing the harder content to get the higher reward is progression. Yes I agree.
What I’m highlighting is the other option is null and a waste because it’s too costly.
I want to add on that I’m having somewhat of a fine time doing this on my tank because I can queue instantly. So it’s probably fine.
But I weep at the thought of doing this on my dps alt.
I only ran one heroic yesterday, as I was busy with other things.
That said; Dungeon ques for DPS were 1-2 mins all EA.
I’d imagine with heroics just starting yesterday, it’d be about the same.
They dont open for 2 weeks. Just upgrade ur gear and stop being weird.
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