I can do a follower dungeon and get 10 valorstones for a boss kill.
Then I can do a much much more difficult heroic dungeon and I’m still getting 10 valorstones per boss kill.
Having this be a thing really kinda makes me not even want to play or do this progression grind.
Inb4 the white knights come and defend this with “so you’ll replace this gear anyway”
Wish granted. Follower dungeons now give 0 valorstones.
Also, for reasons, heroic dungeons only give 10 stones per dungeon, not per boss.
Do you get 30 off the final boss like you do with Heroic?
That sounds even worse
Given the costs to upgrade gear they need to beef up valorstones drops big time. It’s insane.
Then maybe don’t complain that it’s an option in the much slower follower dungeons than in the heroic dungeons that take all of about 10 minutes?
Umm…. What
Um, this part of your complaint:
If your issue is with heroics not dropping enough, mentioning follower dungeons is irrelevant. Sounds to me like your complaint is that there’s an “easier but slower” path in follower dungeons.
Ah, you understood what they were implying. 
You get a bunch of valorstones from raid and M+ that aren’t out yet.
I do think Heroics should be buffed slightly. As is, the best way to grind valor is
Normal > Heroic > Follower
Because on normal every boss is 10 + 15 for final boss. But i can finish some normal dungeons in less than 10 minutes.
On heroic every boss is 10 and 30 on final boss. But these take a little longer.
Follower is the same rates as normal, but the followers suck and you cannot multipull the entire dungeon.
If you just want stones you can just spam the Stonehalls or Priory and finish them like 10 times an hour, which comes out to about 300 valorstones. Not perfect but pretty good.
On heroic you get 30 for the final boss. I’m guessing for follower dungeons (normal dungeons) you only get 10 for the final boss?
So in other words…. The “gear will be replace anyway” argument.
Literally where I knew this thread was going to do.
Does anyone even know the definition of progression?
It’s not a progression path if I just end up skipping it. It means it’s not a path.
If I can do a mythic or raid. Then get a gear piece drop that literally replaces it and I never even upgraded that place with the valorstones then that means it wasn’t a progression path period.
Honestly there are people who only have a commodore 64’s computing power.
oh goodness sake - the gear drops are a different item level and those follower dungeons will take more time. No one is going to stick with follower dungeons the entire expansion if they can do the others
Thanks for adding onto my point
Basically what I’m hearing is never upgrade your blue gear you get that’s around 571. Don’t spend the valorstones to upgrade it.
In other words. It’s not a progression path.
are you trolling ? It really seems like it.
Literally no? Read my last post do you have a counter argument ?
Im being told “raids and mythics give more valorstones”
Ok but if I go into raids and mythics I’m just going to equip that gear that drops.
So why even upgrade the 571 gear.
If you aren’t trolling then there is only one other option. Are you going to understand the answer if I type it out?
It seems like you’re the one trolling at this point
Ok I will try. What does this statement tell you about the people doing those dungeons.