Using delves to shove folks into mythics

If it was a pass/fail challenge like Mage Tower or Zekvir ?? and it exceeded my skill, I’d be disappointed but I’d understand.

If it was something that had progressively increasing difficulty, I’d enjoy it even if I couldn’t clear the max possible difficulty. I’d enjoy practicing and seeing if I could get incrementally better as the season progressed (and hopefully receiving rewards that are at least slightly better than I could get otherwise).

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Zek’vir kinda counts because there’s a ? version.

But neither award mythic track loot so aren’t relevant to the original question.

Pretty much my response as well.

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Oh, I see. And so yes, even if I reached that wall and was unsuccessful, I still wouldn’t seek out M+ in order to finish gear progression which could consequently result in being successful with my personal Delve goals (achievements).

I’m sorry, Delves are a completely valid alternative to anything past LFR and Heroic dungeons and give rewards functionally equivalent (minus trinkets and some other stuff, obviously) to Normal raiding or the lower half of the M+ reward structure from each run (and equivalent to Heroic raiding or most of the M+ reward structure in vault), and that’s… Somehow a bad thing pushing people into M+ in your eyes?

I’m confused as to what you’re upset about here.

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Yes. As in I was unable to do the first iteration of the mage tower and that was okay I recognize my limits.

Delves were advertised as a new pillar of the game, and I think microblizz has seen that crest acquisition was too tedious and in the time between starting this post and now there is good news on buffing crest acquisition.

We’ll see how it plays out.

I’d feel the same way about it that I do when I hit my ceiling in M+ each season. I’d consider it a personal accomplishment that I made it as far as I did and either move on to other things or come back for more attempts with new information/strategies/macros/addons.

Will there be people complaining? Absolutely and that happens at various levels of play in all of the pillars.

Solo player because I hate toxicity…gee wonder why. I LOVE delves!

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So you have no idea how difficult they get at T10-11 because you never attempted them. They’re not easy with 616 and below ilvl gear, doable, but a grind.

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But that’s the same story with m+ going to 11, 12, 13, etc. You’re not doing it for the gear you’re doing it so that the game can provide adequate challenge for you. It doesn’t need to drop better gear because gearing is no longer the point.

This isn’t a hypothetical on my part, Ion flat out said they are adding a tank spec for Brann. The interview is here: ttps://www.pcgamer.com/games/world-of-warcraft/after-regrets-and-lessons-learned-and-2-months-of-tuning-blizzard-is-happy-with-delves-as-wows-newest-endgame-destination/

As for how that will work, that’s a conversation with Ion, not me.

I had to report Braunn for spam.

Bro, Shadow labs and Steam Vault! I’d like to see them added to M+! Oh the tears of M+'players would be delicious! The mind Control on the Ogre Boss in Shadows Labs with his Mind control mechanic!

Nobody shoves Baby into mythics.

They resemble the unsettling presence of a suspicious figure loitering at the subway platform, compelling you to take a cautious step back from the edge of the tracks.

Higher rewards / difficulty content merely existing is not threatening you or coercing you to do anything. Jfc.