"Upgrading" Loot murders this game

You need a dadgum doctorate’s degree to understand it. If you have to look at a table like some kind of job, it’s too complicated. This isn’t Eve online.

There’s like 82 different kinds of crests. So that plus the valorstones is 83 different currencies JUST to upgrade your tww gear with.

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And? If you didn’t raid in wrath you got zero heroic gear basically

You could buy one piece a month at best

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There’s 4 crests, and they’re pretty self explanatory

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Except in wrath, when you finished your heroic tier set you were good for the rest of the expansion. …and that was a long expansion.

Having a 12 month long drought wasn’t a good thing

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Conversely, releasing broken buggy unbalanced content is even worse.

I mean, you do you, I’m enjoying tww

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Based on your profile, it doesnt look like you’re doing much enjoying…

You haven’t even set your pvp talents.

I don’t PvP, so why would I?

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Or killed a single raid boss in anything other than lfr.

Or did any anniversary content

Or even played half of the dungeons.

Just saying you’re not doing much enjoying at all.

A game that is designed for you to progress in it? How could they have done such a thing?

Do you also complain when you level up and have to go to a different zone?

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I’ve cleared out brd twice this week and have done every m+

I just play many characters and this is one I choose on the forums

PVP gearing system in TWW is the best I have seen since probably WoD/MoP/DF.

They should transfer that to PVE and add some additional tiers.

Upgrade system is fine but they need to streamline it a bit.

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It’s quite nice. It gives people a way to improve their characters and do content. The lower the gear is, the easier it is to upgrade. Like someone else said, you can get multiple mogs this way from the same piece of gear. Having the option to improve gear where the loot fairy blessed you with extra secondaries is extremely useful. Example: Piece of 613i gear with a lucky secondary leech/avoidance/speed, etc… stat would be mostly useless if you already have a 623i piece. Thankfully you can upgrade that piece to at least 619 and actually use it instead of it being vendor or disenchanted.

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Upgrades should be available to any player. They are capped so their shouldnt be restrivive. At this point I do not have time nor the patience to do raids or M+ so my character is pretty much finished until next path. No reason to log on because the upgrades tokens are gated,

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That’s the way of the rpg, if you don’t do the content, you don’t get the gear

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That would a normal game not letting you finish because you player it on a lower difficulty setting, Your comment makes no sense. There is no benefit to restriction people. When growth stops happening then people stop playing.

Pretty much this. Do your weekly bullcrud grind, then theres nothing fun to do…because they forgot to make the game fun for anything other than the gear grind.

Mmos worst enemy is letting people realize theres other games to play.

You can ask for harder solo content, but they should never just give out gear for free

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Delves at 11 are hard but you get nothing extra for them.

They hard capped the reward systems basically to artificially extend the length of time gearing up takes…and then allowed the streamers to get around that with exploits.