Updating Torghast this Week

[Féyrre-wyrmrest-accord]

I can’t wait for that mount and toy. Until then, I will feel better running an easier Torghast that exists within my comfort zone.

[Tidybowl-dreadmaul]

that will give those tho like the challenge something to do.

[Argorwal-ysera (Argorwal)]

Yes.

And when the forums ask for it also to be nerfed, I just want to make sure we are ok with telling them no.

[Fobnop-turalyon (Fobnop)]

I see tank and heals that solo are still screwed. Hard pass still.

[Reshyk-cenarion-circle (Reshyk)]

I imagine they will. People seem to be generally happy with it now. Though in all honesty I doubt many people quit the game over 3 days of one specific gameplay element being more grindy than it should have been.

We don’t need to embellish our point to silly degrees just to make it.

[Excildor-draka]

Absolutely with you there. As will i. Good change Blizz

[Oedon-kilrogg]

Love this nerf. First time I’ve ever said I love a nerf. Now I can take my healers and most of my dps into torghast with little to no problems and I might actually enjoy it.

[Magess-kirin-tor]

They just said that… they did nothing to go through with that. They just said that but none of the changes address that.
The only thing changes are doing is forcing ppl to go into groups if they want to complete it, bcuz it is now easier only, and only, for groups.
Don’t go clapping at blizzard just for saying something if they are not actually doing it.

[Féyrre-wyrmrest-accord]

@Excildor-draka

Absolutely with you there.

I think the majority of people like this change.

@Oedon-kilrogg

I might actually enjoy it.

I really enjoyed Torghast in Beta when the scaling was better. It was easier to solo then. This change on Blizzards part puts retail Tower closer to Beta tower, which was almost unanimously loved.

[Reshyk-cenarion-circle (Reshyk)]

@Magess-kirin-tor

The only thing changes are doing is forcing ppl to go into groups if they want to complete it, bcuz it is now easier only, and only, for groups.

I guess the blanket 26% health/damage nerf and targeted nerfs to specific enemies throughout are nothing then?

Having done layer 8 solo back to back last night and this afternoon it is significantly easier for solo players today.

[Saphiire-sisters-of-elune]

This only made it easier for players in groups.

As a matter of fact, they made it harder for solo players on the updates earlier this week.

[Reshyk-cenarion-circle (Reshyk)]

@Saphiire-sisters-of-elune

This only made it easier for players in groups.

@Kaivax

Health and damage of all creatures in Torghast reduced by 6% at Layer 1, increasing to 26% at Layer 8.

• Developers’ note: The net effect should be that Layer 8 is now roughly as difficult as Layer 6 was prior to this change, with other Layers’ difficulty is reduced proportionally.

@Kaivax

• The starting Anima Cell in Torghast now offers a stronger selection of Anima powers.
• Anima Cells dropped by rare creatures within Torghast now always have at least 3 choices to choose from.
• The chance for an Anima Cell to drop from a creature on any given floor has been increased.
• Unnatural Power no longer provides immunity to crowd controlling effects at 10 stacks.

@Kaivax

• Massive Crusher’s Armor Plating cast time increased to 3 seconds (was 1 second) and can be interrupted and/or dispelled. Recast time increased to 16 seconds (was 8 seconds).
• Tower Sentinel’s Oppressive Aura haste reduction and slow now scales up to 10% (was 25%).
• Deadsoul Chorus’s Death Blast now reduces healing received by 15% and stacks 5 times (was 25% and stacks 4 times).
• Skeletal Remains and Lumbering Creation’s Bone Shrapnel now marks the ground and then explodes after 2 seconds, giving players time to move away (was instant).
• Deadsoul Stalker now fades away after 15 melee attacks (was 7) and remains hidden for 15 seconds (was 30 seconds).
• Deadsoul Devil now reincarnates with 15% health remaining (was at 40% health).

@Kaivax

• Elder Longbranch’s Bounty of the Forest cast time increased to 4 seconds (was 2 seconds), time between casts increased to 45 seconds (was 30 seconds), and Hardened Shell now only requires 6 attacks or skills to remove (was 9 attacks).
• Decayspeaker’s Hardened Shell now only requires 6 attacks or skills to remove (was 9 attacks).
• Goxul the Devourer’s Health and damage decreased by 10%, and time between casts of Mass Devour increased to 36 seconds (was 18 seconds).

@Kaivax

• Fracturing Forces and Eye of Skoldus enemies’ health and damage reduced by 50%, now increase assassin health by 5% per stack (was 10%).
• Fracturing Forces and Eye of Skoldus enemies will no longer ambush players who have recently been in combat.
• The Jailer’s Directive now increases health by 10% (was 50%).

@Kaivax

• When the Empowered enemy at the end of a floor is a spellcaster, they should now have a longer delay between their basic magic damage spells.
• Developers’ note: The goal of this change is to make powerful spellcasters less punishing for specializations that lack a frequent interrupt.
• For all classes, major cooldowns will now reset when you transition to a new floor.
• Developers’ note: This functionality should mirror the way cooldowns reset at the end of a raid encounter, or when starting a Mythic Keystone dungeon, affecting most abilities with a cooldown of 3 minutes or longer.

I went ahead and quoted all the changes that make it easier for solo players since you seem to have missed them.

[Oedon-kilrogg]

That’s good. For awhile now I was dreading taking any of my healers into torghast. With how hard and long it takes for a healer spec to kill anything I wasn’t going to bother with torghast with them and just skip the legendary but now I can do it with them and get a legendary.

[Onni-antonidas (Onni)]

Please keep in mind that the really difficult part of Torghast (Twisting Corridors) is not out nor has it been messed with. I know some people don’t like these nerfs but just realize that there is still a section of Torghast that will have the challenge that you want. It’s also the part of Torghast that better represents what a roguelike is supposed to be since each layer has 18 floors instead of 6.

[Tidybowl-dreadmaul]

thats great it will give the fanbois a place to hang out

[Flüff-dalaran]

What happened to Torghast being the content aimed primarily for solo players? These changes still are incentivizing group play. For those of us who want to chill solo with one thing besides world quests, what do we do? Oh, play a different game? Well, alrighty then.

[Tidybowl-dreadmaul]

ion prolly had some bright ideas to change it

[Argorwal-ysera (Argorwal)]

@Flüff-dalaran

What happened to Torghast being the content aimed primarily for solo players? These changes still are incentivizing group play. For those of us who want to chill solo with one thing besides world quests, what do we do? Oh, play a different game? Well, alrighty then.

Literally 4 posts above you a person quoted a long list of changes that impacted solo players.

Especially the flat blanket nerf that, from their own words, made a layer 8 as hard as a layer 6 was.

[Eschá-moon-guard]

Healers have an easier time now?

[Oedon-kilrogg]

From the looks of these nerfs healers should definitely have an easier time now soloing it.