It would be really nice if, sometime in the very near future, we could see some of these QOL changes made to the Shadowlands covenant system. One of the largest downsides to the covenants was how extremely difficult it was to do these things for more than 1 of them to collect the transmogs/mounts/pets etc etc.
-Reduced anima and soul cost to upgrade parts of the sanctum
-Reduced anima cost to buy cosmetics
-Reduced requirements to obtain cosmetics
-Making the campaigns faster or even skippable with full credit awarded if you’ve done another campaign in full
-Increased drop rate of covenant specific items and rewards
-Reducing the time it takes for a covenant special feature to be completed (IE Reducing the time for a Night Fae seed to grow, Reducing the time between ember courts/making them easier etc etc)
-Increasing anima obtained across the board for better ease of access
-Re-implementing threads of fate for people to use on alts that need to unlock Shadowlands features quicker
Some datastring changes on the 10.2 PTR suggest that the Ember Court is going to become daily. No idea if they’re tweaking the other features at all (would be great if they Stitchyard weeklies into dailies as well)
It was tedious. And if I recall correctly, there were people who got screwed out of Veilstrider simply because RNGesus didn’t give them the quests necessary from the Stitchyard for the Necrolords.
What’s wrong with doing stuff like:
Taking the obscene grind out of stuff?
Toning down the RNGesus a bit and giving people a way to work towards getting the gear they’re chasing so they aren’t going an entire season or even expansion without seeing something they may want literally because they think it looks cool?
Or, Sylvanas forbid I know, stop with removing cosmetics from the game at the end of a season? People have Achievements and Feats of Strength they can use if they feel the need to feel all special about doing and getting something when it was current.
I have the Black Harvest title. I don’t care if Blizzard were to make it available to others because it’s a fantastic title. If I felt the need to flex that I did it when it was current, I have a nifty little Feat of Strength that says I did. Let everyone have cool and prettiful things too instead of taking stuff away all the time.
I recently changed to the Bastion peeps to unlock some mog i didn’t get the last time i was with them, i found the huge gate for me was the souls, i had to do the 20 souls quest like 6 times or something lol
It would be nice if the currencies required to upgrade the different aspects of the covenant were trimmed down. At the end of the day, they were tuned around people that were doing day to day activities, rares, dungeons, raids etc so we always had anima coming in.
Oh hey look I found a nice, long thread about people pointing out EXACTLY what I mentioned. Some of those quests easily took months to appear and many people reported they were still missing some in the last week or two leading up to when Blizzard had said was the cutoff.
But by all means tell me how you can guarantee that not a single person missed out on it because of RNG not giving them the quests they needed.
Pointing out that not everything has to be a tedious grind and that there are people such as myself who have mounts, titles, etc. that were removed who have no problem with them being brought back isn’t complaining. It’s being vocal about my opinion on the matter just as you’re being vocal about yours.
I didn’t specifically say cosmetics from Shadowlands were removed when Dragonflight launched. This part I was referring to cosmetics and titles in general. There is zero reason to remove stuff like that from the game just so some people can feel special about having something others don’t when they literally have an Achievement or Feat of Strength, complete with a date stamp on it, that says “I DID THIS WHEN IT WAS CURRENT!” that they can point to if they wanna show how awesome they are at a game we are all playing for entertainment purposes.
But in my opinion, your entertainment shouldn’t require others to not be able to obtain stuff just because you feel like the possibility of seeing some random person who you don’t think “earned” it invalidates your accomplishment. You accomplishing getting AOTC or CE or Gladiator in some random season of some random expansion of WoW took a lot of time and effort. And regardless of your reason for it, you got a FoS that shows you got a badass mount or title for it. What’s so wrong with some new player looking at older mounts and titles and going, “THAT’S IT! The perfect one!” and getting it because they thought it was just as cool as you did?
Would you care to define “last minute”? Because you said here
If you consider three months (the part I took the liberty of bolding) to be “last minute”, then it would be on Blizzard for not giving more notice considering the RNG nature of the quests in the old thread I linked. Because there are people who could have started on it as soon as it was announced and still miss out simply because a quest or two never appeared.
As for the second part I bolded, not everyone reads WoWHead or follows fan sites, content creators, etc. So they only get their information about stuff when Blizzard posts about it. Which means even if it was, as you say, obvious in June of 2022 that it would be going away, they still may not have known that. Which is NOT their fault.
And also due to some people not looking every little thing up on WoWHead, they may not have known how long Necrolord’s Stitchyard could end up done it last. Which, depending on how long it took them to farm Anima, might have cost them a couple weeks or more depending on playtime.
My point is, just because you managed to do it all doesn’t mean everyone else did. Your personal experience with things is applicable to exactly one person: You. And insisting everyone has to experience things the same way you did is ridiculous.
I didn’t make the thread. I simply added my opinion on the matter to it. And actually, no, I couldn’t have completed the grind by now in the time this thread has been up. I have some unfortunate health issues that cut into what I can do at times so I frequently end up just AFKing and doomscrolling at times.
I haven’t forgotten that I have it, actually. But that doesn’t negate my argument that your personal experience only applies to you just as my personal experience only apply to me. I had a lot of stuff left to do when I decided to go for it. And there were times where I was torn on whether to keep pushing for it due to those same health issues I mentioned above.
And I’m glad you happened to get it done ahead of time and were able to make some decent bank as a result! Unfortunately some of us weren’t able to do that. Regardless of the why we weren’t, how does cutting down the Anima costs a bit and removing the Grateful Offerings cost for cosmetic stuff hurt anyone?
There’s still a lot to do in Dragonflight between gearing up alts and leveling their Professions (I am way behind on this since I burnt myself out at launch and may have gotten sucked back into Satisfactory and the new Pokemon games), farming mog or Drake cosmetics, etc. I swear I haven’t seen Razk’vex up since the last time the Dreamsurge was in Thadraszus.
Plus with all these TWing weeks and holidays I’m spending most of my time just doing the holiday boss to try for the new drake saddle on my alts, maybe farming currency to get stuff I’ve missed out on the past few years of not doing the holidays due to taking breaks from WoW, and also taking said alts through a TWing dungeon for the easy 500. What little time I did have left has been catching up on Renown and raiding with the guild.
I enjoy collecting stuff. I don’t go super hardcore and grind a sacrilegious amount to get everything because I eventually get burnt out, but I have a decent collection of mounts, pets, and mog.
But I don’t enjoy having my time wasted by grinds that are long for the sake of being long like the cosmetic stuff was early on in Shadowlands or by stupidly low droprates for cosmetic stuff from rare spawns or holiday events.
If Blizzard is so worried about someone getting butthurt over Johnny Newbie in the guild having the Glory of the Naxxramas Raider mounts from Wrath when they know he wasn’t born until a week after Ulduar launched, that’s what the prettiful little datestamp on the Achievement is for. To say you did it when it was current content. (BRING THEM BACK, BLIZZARD! I KNOW I’M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO WANTS THOSE PROTO-DRAKES WITHOUT SPENDING A FORTUNE ON THE BMAH!)
I genuinely just want to see some of the egregious parts of SL cosmetics made simpler. Reducing the cost of redeemed souls to upgrade buildings/cost of anima being a big one. Another is reducing cost of anima and offerings to buy things.
For people who didn’t play SL and toons that are new or never went through m, even getting anima is a chore in the beginning. I mean thank the lord I have all the account skips but I took my dracthyr there and after thirty minutes in ZM I still only had about 580/1000 for the weekly. I thought those anima bonuses were account wide but it doesn’t appear to be so. Because I went back on my warlock and did the same things and not only did I finish the anima weekly in ten minutes I earned about 2500 in that half hour compared to around 580 on a dracthyr. I am so grateful(pun intended) that I’m sitting on almost a thousand grateful offerings on my warlock because there’s no way I’m doing ALL of that again. I thought it might be nice to dip my alts toes into SL and grab a few things I missed for other armor types and whatnot but no. It isn’t worth it. I get so bored doing it on alts. I can feel how much slower it is. I would have to ignore DF all together to be efficient with SL stuff