You know your activity feed is public right?
is it ? okay what’s the point ?
That everyone can see that your “answer” was a goalpost shift to raiding and guilds for some reason, yanno, the thing that still happens after RDF.
And then you buggered off when called out on this.
So why don’t you post my answer to that? scroll down a little more and you will find the answer
This? That you have to talk with an officer of a guild and do a trial period for … 5 mans?
And if this was an actual thing, it’d stop happening after RDF?
And the slippery slope fallacy of course, lest we forget.
You’re talking to someone who thinks removing RDF was great for Wrath.
Think about that. Removing an authentic Wrath system and replacing it with crap from Retail is good. Killing the leveling experience is good? Turning max level dungeons into a toxic, gatekeeping e-sport mess is good? Reducing the amount of dungeons players run and meeting far fewer players is good? Making gearing alts and fresh 80s far more tedious and difficult than with RDF is good?
Of course not. Some people can’t accept reality. Or they view the game through the very narrow scope of one single playstyle…for example, a raid logger. Which is what Wrath has been crafted for. And nothing else.
yeah ? there is the answer you can’t see it ?
1- it’s the same
2- once in for dungeons it will in for raids too
Sure but it’s nonsensical goalpost shifting and not your own words.
Who trials for a 5 man guild?
Slippery slope fallacy, where are the LFR posts you’re claiming will happen?
oh you want me write down another version of that story for 5man??
Lolzz they will come out of the same place the freaking LFD crap is coming out.
Bots affect pvp and pve regardless of where they’re leveling. Bots are there to create gold, sell gold to players, and devalues your experience.
Locking servers is bad because players said, before vanilla classic was released, we predicted a couple mega servers and blizz needed to step in prior implementation to balance server pop and faction. Locking servers is a reactive step when a proactive step was necessary.
Seeking boosts in TBC made mega servers worse. Blizz more responsible to the state of the game and game community as the community itself
Maybe just one that’s remotely realistic. You’re literally suggesting people are trialling for 5 man guilds right now.
Okay, so where are they?
Will you shut up if I give you the 5man version, or you will keep repeating the same question?? I am pretty sure it’s the latter.
I said it’s the next step. If they give up and give in random dungeon finder. The next cryout will be for raids. It’s the next step after that. Means that should happen first. But why would you care? You want that too, don’t you ?
Slippery slope fallacy.
No argument about bots damaging the game everywhere. But good things you don’t see any of those in Ulduar atm.
Nope. Absolutely not. Server pop and balance was at an okay state at the end of vanilla. Mega servers happened during BC because of a stupid blunder by Blizzard. By opening free transfer from small realms to all mid/big realms, they killed both small and mid size realms, cuz obviously no one chose the mid size and everybody went to big servers and turned them into mega servers. Mid size realms slowly died of aging. Only and Only if the person pulled the trigger was a little less short sighted and would open transfers from small servers to mid size servers, everything was different now. This is something that we warned blizzard the day they put in that specific free transfer in BC, but no one listened. Transfer lock wouldn’t be necessary if that giant mistake wouldn’t happen. But here we are. A Simple removal of transfer lock with no advance plan of enforcing some faction transfers will result in the the few remaining semi balanced realm to turn into 0/100. Not a good idea at this point.
Cash boost was an absolutely bad idea. 0 arguments on that.
You can’t “prove” it by unsubbing. You can only disappear as many people who used to post here regularly have. We’ll never know if they quit the game or just stopped posting. I unsubbed for several months and only came back when they gave me SL for free and because I had so much old left over gold in my retail account that my sub was free for me. I play a little DF because I don’t have to pay for it but I didn’t start back up playing classic. If I run out of retail gold and have to pay the sub cost I’m gone. Unless they add rdf to cata.
It’s the truth. Sit and watch.
What makes you think these retail fan bois stop with dungeon finder. They are never gonna stop until classic becomes retail or even worse. They just want things easy, free and fast. They aren’t used to committing, putting in the effort and paying the cost of things.
If Blizzard sends a YES/NO survey question out today and ask:
Do you want us to in mail you x5 252 Ulduar gear to you every week?
I promise you 50% of these RDF kids will say Yes. Because all they care about is easy easy quick quick irresponsible game.
I’m sitting and watching.
I’ve yet to see an LFR thread that wasn’t some twerp anti RDFer trying to make the slippery slope a thing.
Oh, yes, that’s why they want to run dungeons and not buy from the AH?
All I care about is having fun playing the game. Spending my play time looking for people to play the game with isn’t fun for me. When rdf was in the game I did dungeons on my healers long after I was bis geared just because I had a lot of fun healing dungeons. Now I’m not even playing classic.
Honestly I think that anyone who thinks it’s fun or important or a valuable social experience to look for a group to play the game with is emotionally stunted and clueless about what a real meaningful social interaction is. I feel sorry for you. It’s smacks of desperation. It’s some weird form of social neediness.
That’s exactly my point. You wanna swim but you don’t wanna get wet. You want a perfect body, but you don’t wanna work out. You wanna see the dawn but you don’t wanna be up that early…
Spending time to look for people is part of the classic experience. You can’t just get the goodies without paying the cost.
And yes yes before you nag it was in the original game. Yes it was. But it was a mistake and now we got a 2nd chance to fix it.
What is this slippery slope nonsense? Where does RDF lead? An authentic Wrath experience. OH NO! Except that’s precisely why Classic exists: to capture the game as it was during a specific time. It doesn’t lead to anything other than that specific time.
The actual slippery slope, as we’ve seen, is changes made to how the game was back then. Now we have Retail’s LFG tool. Mythic dungeons. Who knows where else that will lead because, unlike authenticity, there is no blueprint. No idea what’s being built and how it will look like. How changes will affect how the game was originally designed.
These clowns talking about RDF being a slippery slope are insane. It was in Wrath. It leads to nothing. A Classic server is a time capsule that should only involve elements that were in the original version. RDF fits that mold. Removing RDF and replacing it with Retail trash is the actual problem.