Art of war no longer procs off 1H weapons.
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Yes. We get it. You’re upset.
Sorry that these PVE buffs are affecting your PVP.
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Sorry paladins cant see that:
They have the most broken cooldown in the game
Ret has the most utility of any dps
Holy is the best healer one of the best healers in the game for pve and pvp
Prot is one of the best tanks if not the best tank in the game
Extremely viable for pvp
But by all means lets buff paladins
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Let’s break this down:
They’ve already factored in our utility when making their decision. The change isn’t making Divine Sacrifice ignore all raid damage forever: its a change to our damage which will place us in parity with other DPS.
Irrelevant. We only have one spec that does DPS, and it was not performing well because we are currently balanced around a Tier bonus that doesn’t exist.
The Hand of Reckoning change does not affect PVP. The Seal of Vengeance change MIGHT affect PVP, and might be worth investigating.
They already did. Sorry its making you so angry.
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They should buff sub rogues, frost mages and arms/fury warriors.
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Hand of Reckoning deals no damage to players and Preg doesnt use Crusader Strike or Divine storm so they receive no changes.
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The buff affects literally none of the other stuff you’re crying about.
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All those other low performers should get a utility buff then right?
If paladin dps is on par with other low performing dps, then you bring the paladin because it has massive utility advantage over those other dps.
So when an arms/fury warrior uses shield wall it should give the buff to the entire raid now.
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Do you seriously think fury warrior and ret utility are on par with each other?
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Fury scales better with gear
Many of the low performers have alternative DPS specs. Ret does not
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Those other specs dont bring the utility that ret does this excuse is a cop out
This absolutely is relevant. A class with options that players are ignoring isn’t the fault of blizzard its the players problem.
Clearly not because they would nerf ret utility to compensate
But by all means lets bring ret up to parity with fury, while keeping all the utility with ret
Do you not know how stupid that sounds
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Simple nerf is if you have one handed spec in prot tree while having art of war or sheath of light then one of them are nerfed by 50% in pvp.
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Good to hear! All the preg auto attacking to 2k+ must be stopped. Play a real spec. preg in arena is an abomination
I got 2200+ as holy last season. real hard right? But i also did it as ret. Preg was always just a easy faceroll everyone wanted a easy 2k+ with with no skill or effort
Glad to see it dead 
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I never played preg. Looked boring and like a troll spec but still a very cool player discovered spec. So lame blizz killed it.
And come icc ret will be out dpsing almost all of those specs by a good margin (and this was before these new buffs) with no other alternative spec per class beating ret for most classes. So do we get our utility buff then? Or do we get a damage buff?
Should we start crying now to get our buffs by then?
The classes those specs belong to have other specs that do much more damage. So, by your logic, if they have less utility, they should do more, damage, right?
We. Have. 1. DPS. Spec. Telling us to roll to Heals/Tanking is NOT the same as rolling Fire to Frost. It’s just not. And since we are talking about ignoring, why didn’t you even touch upon the T10 bonus? Or do you think its fair that a DPS spec balanced around a tier bonus should play through Naxx, Ulduar and TOGC before their damage is normal?
And yet they didn’t. Maybe because the damage increase itself isn’t going to launch us into S tier? The change isn’t even live yet. Why not let it go live and see what the numbers say? Or does that sound stupid to you?
If, by ICC, our damage is too much, they can simply revert the buff, and we will have our T10 bonus. And all will be as it should be. Problem solved.
Gearing up my hunter to play with a preg pal rn
The sims before the buff already show ret ahead of most other dps specs. And then you add in the utility ret brings…
I didnt really care because i saw it as the same situation as warriors. Not very good until late phases. But if they are going to actively class balance as they have done twice now… So bm hunter buffs when?
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