I had forgotten all about that! It sounds about right though, and yeah I can’t imagine it would have represented that large a portion of the player base.
I just played the numbers game in my head before release. Knowing my wife was going to play, I’d be playing casual, and wanting to go horde it was a no brainer to go PVE. I’m hoping cross realm BGs are server specific since PVE servers are mostly alliance heavy for some sweet short queues.
That sentence was caused by severe testosterone shortage.
Need to factor in alts to your equation there
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A shame you wrote that whole wall of text just so I could tell you I actually enjoy the game and playing it with my friends, and that more than anything is what keeps me around.
Game. Theory. SHATTERED.
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Level 17 character
Completely ignorant as to what game theory is
Cringeworthy statements like “wolf pack”
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I didn’t read your wall of text. I’m sure it’s like every other post that’s begging to have things your way. Please don’t come back and enjoy another game.
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I’m not day one, but I have been subbing since I started at the drop of Wrath. I can’t say I logged in every single day, I have taken several weeks long breaks. But I knew, I’ll be back.
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Your first point is somewhat flawed. I think the outliers are the people who actually enjoy mindless ganking. The reason people are doing it now is because its the most efficient way to farm honor currently available. But even with queues, running BGs is still far more efficient than random ganking, especially if youre on the faction that frequently wins which, lets be honest, will be the horde in all likelihood. And thats even forgetting the rep gear people will be chasing which offers further incentive for Bgs vs “world pvp.”
Also, if alliance have no queue, youre going to have a lot fewer alliance to gank, even further reducing the reward for mass ganking. Hell, if I wasnt 60 Id just sit in BGs from 50 on and level that way vs screwing around with the open world.
It wont eliminate all ganking, but people go where the reward is and after next week the biggest rewards by far will come from BGs.
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I agree with everything you say except this sentence. I don’t believe BG’s in Vanilla give XP.
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You missed the following points
- 60s gank 50-59 zones exclusively.
That’s it. That’s all the points you missed. Reformulate accordingly. If all the 60s are queued and served, all that leaves are the 50-59s Alliance, who will not be queued, to be a permanent source of free, low energy honor at scale while Horde maintains their 9,400 average advantage.
Lots of yipping chihuahuas in this thread. Sempai wolf pack still hasn’t issued any of them exclusive PvP invites, have they? I wonder why that is… 
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Truly true …
1 ) Many may be thinking?
Cross realm PvP was gonna happen…
Because it was/is a show case program and not 15 years ago…
Who knows what will happen when the full cycle of release times come to pass.
Then do full CRC and cross realm.
Play to have fun. Btw the op post was bait…
Somewhere is full blown Add. for another game…
A well reasoned post overall but like most people that say this statement is with out merit you are wrong.
Get good means use common sense. Most people refuse to do this and blame issues they could easily fix or improve themselves on other players or on Blizzard. Use what you have at your disposal (your classes abilities, your guild, your server’s community, etc)
For example, people who say they are getting camped on the way to BRM and it takes 45 mins to zone into MC need to get good. I’ve never died more than 4 times trying to get to whichever instance i want even if theres 100s of horde in BRM. Use common sense to avoid them or mitigate them if avoiding is impossible. So many obvious player created solutions to this player created problem.
I’m not an economist but I don’t think you’re applying Game theory correctly in its entirety. I believe its determining how different parties will react to a situation, then determining the outcome or best outcome that would be possible.
If you had a theory that showed where we would get max efficiency, I think you would be dabbling in Game Theory then. Then you decide which option has the best outcomes, or most probability. But again, I’ve only messed w/ it in a few college classes.
But all in short, some assumptions/generalizations stick out to me.
In theory, but not practice. Its more of a gradual smoothing from super imbalanced servers with something like 20k+ Horde, and some Alliance servers w/ an advantage. What this means is, there isn’t 600k Alliance having a bad day, but probably just those on the extremely imbalanced/overpopulated servers.
Again, a theory but far from it in the actual application. It’s just going to be a few super servers that have Horde roaming them constantly. A fair amount of other PvP servers don’t have this disparity (I play on Stalagg and there isn’t swarms of Horde in every area, despite a large imbalance).
This also is assuming everyone is BG queuing, which the numbers would be skewed for both sides dramatically, without anything other then estimates on participation from both sides.
Plus, its anyones guess as to how they determine whose in Battlegroups, if we have Battlegroups, or whats going on with that.
I guess that just leads me to, can I have you stuff?
His theory is absolutely correct. Its just not on a server by server basis, just one large pool of players which obviously is going to have a horde surplus, just a question of how many.
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Good luck, OP. Kudos for tolerating the cozy interrogation on the way out.
They don’t give exp the same way they did later on, but the badge turnin from 1 win or 3 losses gave pretty decent experience. I definitely remember leveling characters exclusively in BGs in vanilla
That’s true, and I should have been more specific.
I would like your expert recommendations on how to move through 10-20 T1 Horde who spend hours patrolling the distance between Blackrock Mountain and the Burning Steppes and Searing Gorge flight points without being ganked, literally, 7-8 times on the way there.
Then I want your expert advice on how to overcome the chilling effect that creates when people refuse to do any instances in Blackrock Mountain because they don’t want to get camped for a half hour first.
Please provide the greatest ways to git gud in the face of entire PvP raids that spend hours camping 5-man lowbie teams on their way to do an instance.
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Stop playing video games if you’re getting visibly shaken by what happens to your online avatar? That would be my advice. It’s just a video game.
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