Unreasonable leveling expectations

I see a lot of guilds and private individuals setting unrealistic goals for obtaining 60. Something like… I plan to have 60 in the first week. Or we will be raiding by the third week.

Let’s be real. The official world record to 60 is 4 days 20 hours ./played in the original game before TBC.

That time includes loans of gold for level 40 mount, and logging off to make use of hearthstone on cool down. Zero profession training to save time. Also playing on a server not flooded with new characters at the start. The same player however also won the blizzard 1-50 competition… by 4 levels. So he was world champ by ./played record and by 1-50 endurance record.

Can it be beaten? Sure… but out of 13 million people playing in the original game… that was the best verified time ever posted before the game moved to TBC.

Set realistic goals. Don’t set your guild or yourselves up for disappointment. If you see a guild saying they are raiding in week 3, like dozens are claiming, be aware that 9/10 of them not only will not be raiding they will face heavy drama for not meeting expectations.

Also take guides posted on youtube with a grain of salt. Most where made on Vanilla servers. The XP gains where higher, random drop quests dropped more, escort quests moved better, and hundreds of factors made those times faster.

Google joanasworld

That guide will save you time and is written by the world record holder. However don’t expect to use it and get his times. Charles Barkley can teach you to play and be better. He can’t make you Charles Barkley.

A realistic goal for a top 1% player in ALL categories should be 60 by day 10-14. With 6.5 days played or less. For anyone not in that category of player expect level 60 in 14-30 days. With 7-14 days ./played depending on your proportions of skill, experience, and available time.

The top 1% of 1% of players or less will hit 60 in the first week. They will play ~19 hours per day avg, with the skill and experience both to achieve that goal. Are you 1 in 10000? You just might be. For everyone else remember speed at leveling doesn’t translate to skill at the game. The world record holder spent almost his entire time in classic doing speed runs. He hardly ever raided.

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I’m just glad there’s a category for guild invites now. I was getting ready for people to start rolling need on Bindings of the Windseeker here in the forums before anyone even played classic.

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Top 1% of 1% is 1 in 10,000.

That is all.

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When I see guilds not named Method talking about raiding MC in week 2 or 3, I see inexperienced GLs. Now I could be wrong about some of them, but probably not for most of them.

A lot of players are being sold a bill of goods about how awesome their new guild is going to be and are going to be disappointed when their expectations turn out to not just be unrealistic, but wildly unrealistic. This will lead to a crisis of confidence in the GL, and many of these guilds will collapse or scale back greatly.

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There is a guy who speed levels to realm firsts who posted on Reddit a couple of days ago. Unless you plan on competing with “adult diapers, stimulants and general disregard for my health” then you probably aren’t in the same league as these guys.

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Love you. Yea I meant to put the other zero I swear. But awesome catch. +1

Everyone loves being corrected over semantics and grammar.

You are 100% correct with your original point though.

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GL: “Bindings dropped!”

Player 1: /rolls 99

Player 2: “I bid all of my DKP, highest in the guild”

GL: “Um, guys? Bindings are guild assigned. You can’t bid or roll on them”

Player 1: “I rolled a 99! I’m submitting a GM ticket to get them”

Player 1 has left the guild.

Player 2: “I’m screenshotting this ninja for the server forums! No one will ever want to be in this guild again”

Player 2 has left the guild.

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Good luck to all those people that want to rush to 60 and raid…A lot of us from vanilla all those years ago will be enjoying the leveling and grouping experience while all the elitist and IO score tool bags try to act like method.

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I honestly expect a lot of the hype train people who plan on raiding MC as fast as possible to complain that there is nothing to do and cancel their subs in the first month or two.

Maybe I’m wrong here, but just seems like that’s what is going to happen.

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Why discourage people from striving to be better or the best? What is the point of bringing this up. People need to let people fail and learn.

Yea why rush to raid MC when you will be farming it thru naxx for Thunderfurys, Sulf, and probably caut bands because healer rings dont drop? My guild is set on about 2 months after launch to be fully 60/pre-bis

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Plenty of people are going to be killing themselves and burning out fast.

Bring it on, layers will go away faster.

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That’s only the official SOLO 1-60 record.

You can do it faster if you have help or if you have a highly organized group.

That doesn’t mean most of the people claiming they’ll get to 60 in the first week will actually do that, but you should know that there are faster ways.

This is why i dont , or wont bother looking for a guild til 50+.
Want to see how the server shakes out. Who knows, I may end up running a guild again.

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I don’t understand why anyone would want to play that way.

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Yep, people forget how easy Vanilla raids were.

Hardcore raiders aren’t going to get tired of MC real quick.

between playing original Vanilla and playing 3 individual vanilla private blizzlike realms, i have yet to level a character faster than 6-7 days played, thats taking into account going the less traveled routes to avoid high traffic areas, avoiding certain quest areas that are far between, and receiving help from homies…so yea raiding on week 3 for the masses will be quite unrealistic
but i think the main note should be that levleing is large part of the experience and should taken in as an experience of its own and enjoyed

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I’m pretty sure it was just a reddit sh*tpost, most are, but it frightens me how accurate it likely is.

You’re right most of these people won’t make it to 60 in first month. Most people claiming to speed level have never done it, even a lot of high profile people. It’s a shame cuase to be honest it really doesn’t matter how fast you level xD if you get to 60 around first half of AQ you can see all the content and be just as geared as someone who got 60 in first two weeks lol.

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