Your fury warrior was dead last at the bottom of the meter, and you’re playing marksman knowing it’s might as well be like playing arms compared to fury. Nothing you say is no longer credible bro. Fury does THE WORST OVERALL DMG IN RAIDS. Period. This was meant to be at the hunter not you tubbly, you’re the only one with common sense out here. People trying to put their foot down so arms doesn’t do anymore dmg, stuff outrageous.
I don’t think they pretended anything at all. They clearly stated they made a mistake and will endeavour to do better in the future.
Tell that to the RDF crowd.
To be blunt, get over it. Mistakes happen, we all make them. Would you really want to have someone follow you around constantly and remind you of a relatively small mistake you made, even after you acknowledged and corrected it?
If they make the same mistake next week, then yea, maybe be a little more upset… but really, we should be encouraging this kind of communication from Blizzard. When folks like yourself do this, it makes Blizzard not want to communicate with us.
As a player and customer, it gives me peace of mind to know the “why” of things, even if the “why” is just “we done messed up!”
Or maybe… just maybe… nobody actually cares.
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You keep quoting me like you’re responding to me, but then making statements like you’re responding to someone else.
With regards to Warrior buffs, I’m on your side. Nobody loses if Warriors do more damage now, or in any subsequent phase. A tighter class balance is never going to be a bad thing.
Yeah it was to the hunter. I was on my phone so it was chalked. I agree with everything you said.
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They made this change without saying anything about it though lol, YouTubers were making videos before there was a blue post. Then they finally said something after the outcry. Their communication was not good here.
But it was better than nothing, I guess, which is what we usually get.
Maybe cause you’re bad?
13k is pretty nutty though.
what are you on about?
Seems pretty good to me.
It was, after the fact, which I think is their point. The stealth nature of the change was not communicated till it was caught and brought up publicly. Then blizzard communicated about it. They did the right things in the wrong order.
For sure, but this is encompassed in their post that effectively reads “We screwed up!” Like, what more do we really need here?
I feel like preaching tolerance on the WoW forums is probably not the best use of my time, yet here I am. Still, I don’t think there’s much to be gained by me continuing to say the same things over and over, so I’m going to step back from this. I’ve made all the points I feel like I’m going to make.
I would encourage those of you coming down hard on Blizzard here to take a step back and think about how you would want to be treated if the situations were reversed. This doesn’t mean we don’t hold Blizzard accountable, but it does mean we don’t hold grudges.
Forgive and move on, friends!
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For one, have less of the “We screwed up” posts after the fact. I’m not arguing that their follow up wasn’t sufficient and a good example of the type of communication players want, however changing a talent quietly and in a big way is a huge break down in fostering that.
The lack of foresight is what I think people are jumping on here, not the follow through. Which, if we wanted to even consider people being polite to blues when they post, there needs to be more upfront and less apologies after the fact from them.
I think you need to read this again, then go over my post. I’m not trying to be rude here, but this is exactly my point.
A mistake was made, acknowledged, and corrected. There is no value to jumping all over them in hindsight.
Unless you mean to tell me that you’ve never made a mistake or hasty decision in your life that you’ve come to regret… which is pretty unlikely and that’s the whole point. Everybody makes mistakes. Don’t be that guy who likes to hold it over their heads and point it out constantly. Nobody likes that guy…
I think you need to check out what I wrote as well, I can condense it further for clarity.
My entire point is that if they had just posted that the change (talent change) was happening or in testing they would not have needed to make apologies at all.
Edit: removed pointless information.
I appreciate that you made an attempt to clarify, let me try this as well.
You’ve just stated what they should have done, but they didn’t do that, which was the mistake. That they acknowledged by saying that they should have put it up on the PTR to begin with.
Anything further than that feels like you’re expecting them to go back in time and not make the mistake to begin with… which is totally unreasonable. I think you’re stuck in a loop, sir 
You’re still focusing on the wrong thing, we get it they apologized.
They did not use the channels for announcing changes that they usually do. If they are going to try and continue properly communicating then abandoning this randomly and making an unannounced change is a bad look.
Had they just used the tools they are supposed to be using they would not have had to make an apology at all.
Lauding their post mistake communication is ignoring their almost same day track record of not communicating. “it’s okay they said sorry” is excusing the larger break down of communication that created the need for them to apologize.
It’s not about dragging them through the mud on one error, it’s about accountability that it wont happen again. As I am going to assume you have played WoW for a length of time I am sure you can understand why people want consistency of communication from blizzard and would be upset if the already sparse communication was overlooked for stealth expediency.
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They need to have a definition of “close enough”.
Currently they just seem to be making the choice in an arbitrary manner.
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I don’t think you do get it. They’ve clearly addressed all of the points you just made. This is getting hilarious; however…
My mistake is that I recognized when this conversation wasn’t going anywhere over a half hour ago, and then I got sucked back in. I will endeavour to do a better job of committing to my stated course of action in these scenarios.
I’m done with this part of the conversation. Cya!
I agree. I posted a while back. It would be nice to get some communication surrounding what the new expectations should be. Where does Blizzard intend to take class balance in WotLK going forward? What are the guidelines they’re using for deciding when they want to intervene?
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“If no makey mistakey, no need make sorry.”
had they not deviated from their
“Announce first, then change” paradigm this wouldnt even be a situation. instead they chose badly.
At least I’m direct in my tone, the underhandedness of your bow out reply is thick. Makes me wonder if you planned on arguing in bad faith or just defaulted to it.
Any time there is choice in a game, you have the option to make a poor choice. Consider making better choices? If all choices were good choices, you wouldn’t be making a choice.