Unofficial Sethrak Discussion Thread 🐍

Honestly there entire story is literally customised gnomes, all subraces we’ve seen this expansion have had a genetic difference to the main races in one way or another but those Junkergnomes have none i’ve noticed, they’re just culturally different amputees basically.

Just to give a quick example Void Elves were genetically changed by forced infusion of the Void akin to how Blood Elves became genetically different from High Elves on a minor level due to the Fel, Highmountain Tauren were blessed by Cenarius and over generations of there habitat evolved from the normal Tauren genetically, hell Mag’har Orcs follow the Blood Elf thing but in reverse when up against normal Orcs, infact deep sea pressurisation over generations lead to the Ankoan as a seperate species from the Jinyu (instead of a subspecies i think).

Impossible to give that to the Horde as i don’t believe there is any other race in the game that can be used as a subrace that isn’t genetically different for them unless you know they just copy the mecha parts on the Gnomes and give that to Goblins but even i’d see that as bad for them :frowning:

This is 100% true! So really there’s nothing stopping Blizzard then :smiley:

Except Blizzard itself!

I hope the trolling has ended with kultirans and junkgnomes and from now on Blizzard will look at the forums and see that sethrak, saberosn and arakkoas would be a welcome option for ally!
I prefer sethrak!

Whenever Blizzard invents any lore to introduce the most unlikely things!
Blizz can do it now, because, after Sethraliss’s return, sethraks were forgotten about Horde history!

There is also something else that has not been explained!
Why does Zandalar export its criminals, throat cutters, and insurgent to the territory where Vulperas and Sethraks already live?

These elements often cause a lot of inconvenience to Vulperas and Sethraks!

There is even a group of trolls near a ruin that captures, brainwashes vulperas and uses them as gladiators for their enjoyment!

What kind of neighbor is this one who throws their trash in someone else’s backyard?

If Canada exiled its criminals in the US, I don’t think that would be well regarded!

It does not appear that the Zandalar treat other peoples so well on their own continent!

If I were the sethraks, I would be, euphemistically speaking, “dissatisfied” with the zandalar policy towards my country!

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SETHREK for THE ALLIANCE??? U gave HORDE theirMORTAL ENEMIES

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Only the faithless have a distaste for Vulpera.

Aye but the Vulpera distaste them as a species because of the Faithless especially ones like Nisha, basically thats how Racism works.

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This is valid, but lore is also pliable enough with new races that if they wanted something to work out, then they could. Even if we didn’t get the ‘devoted’ playable, but the ‘faithless’ themselves. As long as the model is available, people can work out their own headcanon on the affiliation of their character.

For example, a lore justification could be something like 'Since Korthek fell, his followers are restless and wanting to build better circumstances and options for our people, but aren’t sure how and there aren’t a lot of resources out here to work with anyway since the land became a desert. Maybe some of them ought to go out into the world instead and find their own path."

That could even work conceivably for either faction; though I don’t really foresee that both new and unusual races in that area would be for the same faction since the narrative is that they clash. Putting one on either side would be nice symmetry.

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The idea that the Sethrak might not be very happy with the zandalari using their homeland as a garbage can for all their criminals is an extremely good point I’m surprised I haven’t seen in favor of Alliance sethrak yet. Thanks Grayphus!

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Why would the Sethrak turn their backs on the ones who saved them and their God?

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I mean, Alliance did help them too? I don’t know If It’s 100% canon that Horde was the one involved with Sethraliss rescue but, even If It is, there’s still plenty reasons for them to NOT join the Horde. And we all know Blizzard, they don’t care so much with lore nowadays, Alliance helped literally all Nightbornes with their addiction and their homeland, and took only one Elf to make them turn their backs to the people who saved their lives and city.

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Not really.

The Horde did the exact samething for thr nightborne.

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Yes there is and people already mentioned above. And there’s reason to join the Alliance top.

Just like technically Alliance did the same for the Sethrak. And just because the Horde did the same, doesn’t justify a “treason” like that?

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Except the Horde did way more.

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They murdered a whole bunch of faithless that Vorrik wants to reconcile with, failed to protect the keystones, let their mortal enemy get summoned, dump their criminals on their doorstep.

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Vorrik was captured by them so the Horde had to kill a few to save him. Then we had to kill more to help the Vulpera(at Vorriks request), then(since he realized peace wasnt an option) Vorrik had us ride a giant pterodactyl(he was riding it too) too blow the Faithless up from the sky AND use a lightning orb to kill 100 Faithless once we landed and then told us to kill Korthek. Afterwards the Horde went into the temple and saved their Loa.

Yes, the combined efforts of the Devoted and Horde were unable to stop Mythax from being summoned due to Korthek creating a diversion while Jakra’zet went and took the keystones. Thankfully, the Horde fixed that mistake by killing Mythrax.

I dont think they care about this. At all.

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Combined efforts of Vorrick with the Zandalari Criminals/Exiles and the Vulpera, the Devoted only defended the keystones and there home temple.

Vorrik tried to minimize casualties where he could, and it seems the majority of the population is underground.

You let Mythrax go because the Horde is pants-on-head stupid and let their villain monologue before yeeting himself as sacrifice.

In any event, they share more cultural themes with the Alliance, so I expect them to be an AR.

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I do too. As a Horde AR.

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Why would they be the forsaken AR?

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Same reason night elves were the blood elf AR.