I feel like ogres and sethrak a bit special in that way, they have some toxic parts in their community (high elves have it way worse though, letās be real). Existing threads on it only amplifies it I think.
The one I made for forest trolls was a good choice on the basis of the community it attracted, at least imo. I feel like furbolg will be another race no one really opposes, or at least very few do, and that the community around it will be pretty cool.
I can do this, if you all are in approval of it. I will need a few days to flesh it out. And I will likely still reference this and link this one since there is still good discussion and information within.
I do agree that, since the OP made the thread with Alliance in mind, there is going to be a bias. And I just want the Sethrak playable. I am not truly biased towards one faction or the other.
Would you like to be co-captain?
It would be nice to have one. Cause the one thing about me generating the thread; I will not be able to double post (which I tend to do when I get hyper excited). Or nudge the thread if I am the last to have a comment.
I am in approvement. The thread could use some updating too maybe, like mentioning the priest of Sethraliss that appears in Dazarāalor and at Talanjiās coronation.
Iām totally willing to design the post, Iām just not so sure about actually posting it. I can have the vast majority done within 2 hours. Iād enjoy making it, so no worries about wasting my time. If thereās some dialogue, from quests or dungeons and such, that youād want in the post, that I wonāt be able to get tonight, Iād have to dig for that. If thereās no dialogue though, or dialogue you donāt already have off hand, I can have the full OP done within a few hours, and you can just toss that dialogue in and edit the post as you like before posting it.
If the thread is remade with both factions in mind, be it one section for Horde and Alliance, or humoring neutral, or both, the toxicity might calm down a bit. Or maybe itāll make it worse, but that wouldnāt be my guess.
Iām not sure how Iād do anything, but Iām totally willing to do that. Of the non-playable races within the Horde and Alliance, sethrak are unquestionably my most wanted, and even if we include those races within their factions, sethrak are probably still my most wanted tying with Revantusk.
If you want to write up a mock up, go for it! If youāre in the Discord just message me the rough draft directly.
And then I can add in any missing points. Though I imagine youāll be pretty thorough.
I did plan to have text within the post set aside for all three arguments. And I imagine it might have a good effect as well. I see so many posts of people coming in here and right off the bat itās "Sethrak are a Horde race ONLY, how dare you have dreams, If only we got the Sethrak instead of X race, etc, etc)
People seem to have blinders on when they enter this thread, so I am definitely in agreeance that a more open megathread would be ideal. People are allowed to voice their opinion. It just seems that everyone has to have their teeth bared while doing it. XD
Iām not in the disc, but I can add you directly if youād like.
Iāve heard some poor things about the discord. (Also not really sure what Iād do in there tbh)
Example of my work:
#ShamelessSelfPlug
Come on Blizzard, Iām still waiting.
I will start on this now. Whatever comes out will want editing, my forest troll thread has something like 80 edits on it (though most is formatting, I was still learning how to properly format one of those posts, very little of the edits are content). However, as my HS English classes have and continue to teach me, rough drafts are bad in comparison to finals. Past experience with threads show that same thing as well.
They can be unbending to new ideas or concepts and they are in my experience often somewhat hostile but its like most discords for races in WoW. I just lurk most of the time and try to keep out of it.
If could also just be me. Sometimes I can be a pain to live with.
Take your time. Iām 27 going on 82 (not 28, lol) and go to bed SUPER early on work days/week days. In 2 hours or less. (I have serious trouble sleeping. Yay, chronic pain and insomnia!)
Think this is amazing that weāre coming together to make a newer and improved thread! While taking in consideration others ideas and discussions.
Of course. Another joke made with the alliance never hurts.
After all, what we had in BfA, needs to be perpetuated. More ostracism is always good for the alliance.
Well, maybe because the Horde received a lot.
But it is not in the same demoralizing situation as the alliance.
And letās remember that many people play in both factions and maybe they just wanted some kind of symmetry that would benefit both factions.
Receive what we take, constantly hear the mockery, like that of your hordemate above, and perhaps, you understand.
And even if Sethraks canāt be in the alliance, it doesnāt hurt to signal to Blizzard that we could have something like that in the alliance.
That we would like something like that and not the memes that were delivered to us.
If sethraks are a playable race in the horde, I will play in the horde, where I already have a tauren hunter and 3 vulperas.
But if the result of this is another race of blood elf with dark and forced origin, other human models or another gnome, etc., being sent to the alliance to keep the joke going, then I donāt know what future the alliance can have, if all the options for the alliance are always to maintain the status quo.
Oh I understand why, however I only play Horde, so Iām going to contest anything the Alliance wants that I want. If Sethrak go to the Alliance, I would never ever play them and it would be a shame.