imagine if you could have an albino one
Since playable Saberon would be the catās meow, I wouldnāt let the purrfect opportunity to include them in my monthly in-game race request suggestions be squandered!
At the beginning of each month, I usually send in-game feedback for each of the races I want to see and refer to their megathreads on here for more information. I figure it can only help to gain some interest in our requests of what weād like to see, though no guarantees itāll lead to that ever becoming a reality.
If youāre interested in doing something similar for your wanted playable races, I made a guide in the following post that explains how to do it in steps:
In the meantime, Iāll continue to help make sure they arenāt forgotten. Hopefully, something good will come from them coming to Azeroth with us during BfA and theyāll find a home. Preferably on the character creation screen, of course!
Playable Saberon would be grrrrrrrreat! 
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US Thanksgiving is coming up fast this month. I wanted to share some videos of some wild cats enjoying Thanksgiving again to fit the occasion. This is what I found for this year:
Hopefully someday, Saberon will get to enjoy Pilgrimās Bounty. Iām sure theyād be as content with all the food as the wild cats in the videos above. 
Whatever everyoneās plans are this month, please have a fun, happy, and safe November and Thanksgiving! 
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Real cool cats donāt celebrate such silly holidays because for us, every day is turkey day.
Coming up with character names can be hard. Often, we rely on random name generators to gain some form of inspiration. As it turns out, there is a Saberon name generator that I came across on.
It comes from a website that has all kinds of random name generators from different series and races within said series. It actually has a name generator for Saberon, albeit just for male Saberon it seems.
If anyone is interested in checking it out, you can find it here:
I actually have a couple names saved for if Saberon ever become playable. One is a name from a previous Vah Shir/Kerran character from Everquest 1 and 2 while another is one I came up with for a second Saberon idea. If they ever become playable, Iāll share them then.
Hope it helps out anyone trying to think up of Saberon names.
Playable Saberon would be grrrrrrrreat!
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then you can eat vulupas when you see them
Already got a name for the saberon if they ever come to WoW, and I will go to whatever faction that our feline friends go to. And got it saved on an altā¦ Despite it being unique <_<
But speaking of factions, and I believe I touched on this in the past, I believe saberon would be best suited in the faction of the Horde. Now with the release of Dragonflight, we know that the heroes will remain on the Dragon Isles during the whole expansion (outside of a couple quests), and letās not forget the lovely time skip since Shadowlandsā¦ Needless to say, itās ample time to allow the Saberon to form some kind of civilization within Kalimdor. Now looking at the plant people, forget their name, but the crazy guys who wanna turn the world into a plant paradise, their location could be in the map where already forests are growing within the desert. Maybe the magics draw them over to it, desiring to make the jungles grow even faster, Saberon they could go anywhere though. If Blizzard wanted to, they could have the lions go to the prairies, tigers and panthers to the jungles, and snow leopards to Wintergrasp (dont recall if there is any other snowy region in Kalimdor)
Havenāt read up on this conversation since returning, and dont remember all that was discussedā¦ Majority of what I recall was the stuff concerning the crazed army of the light. Anyway, would appreciate any thoughts, and pointers to the important topics discussed here.
Edit: Also, something I would love to see within the lore of the saberon, assuming we get them and they go further in depth into their loreā¦ I would LOVE it if the different fur patterns of saberon had differing abilities, cultures, strengths, and weaknesses. The last two being more aligned with the kind of big cat they looked like, example if there is a tribe of panther saberon living in a swamp or something, they could be a group of jaguars whose hunting tactics largely revolve around ambushing their prey and main source of foodā¦ would be the crocodiles. Then when lacking weapons, theyāll use their incredibly powerful jaws to puncture or even crush the skulls of the crocodiles they hunt. Physically they wouldnāt be the strongest, but could have the strongest bite force out of all of their cousinsā¦ Like real life jaguars. Would absolutely love to see something like this implemented.
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I have two names saved. One is one I used for a male Vah Shir and Kerran character in Everquest 1 and 2. The other is one I thought of for a female Saberon since I have the character slots to save it, thanks to the recent character cap increase for accounts. If Saberon ever become playable, Iāll be sure to share them when I can make them.
Iām fine with them on either faction, though I have been leaning them more towards the Horde. I feel like they would be treated a bit better and their culture fits more. I originally thought they could go Alliance, given the whole Lion symbol and how the AU Laughing Skull Clan (who is part of the Horde) hunted them for their hearts along with some of the Saberon becoming enlightened in WoD, but I neglected to realize that Saberon would likely be extremely dubious to the Lightforged Draenei. Especially since Yrel and the Lightbound are why some of them escaped to Azeroth.
Of course, Saberon and Botani coming to Azeroth is a pretty big thing. The latter of which is pretty scary when think about what theyāve done and also considering how much time has passed since then, as well as the idea of Botani taking over Wailing Caverns is frightening.
Some of the Saberon couldāve formed a home somewhere in the Barrens, maybe trying to figure out how to get more of their friends and family back to Azeroth with us to save their tribes from the Lightbound. There are a lot of possibilities to work with them into potentially making them playable, which is preferred over making them angry mooks without much depth.
As I said before, itās interesting to think that the Saberon and Botani that came with us wouldāve become jobber mooks for warfronts if the Barrens warfront became a thing, but because it didnāt happen, they could become something more. While I see Botani as more of an antagonistic race, Iām sure something could be worked out to make them playable, likely on the Alliance side to go with Saberon on the Horde. Iāve seen a few people gain some interest in them on the forums here, so I donāt really want to downplay that possibility at all, and some Botani could still be antagonists in a storyline in such a scenario. Granted, I do think in my own personal opinion, Arakkoa would be better to pair with Saberon, given they have a lot of history with each other and playable Arakkoa have been requested since Burning Crusade.
A lot of the above I typed is something Iāve mentioned in great detail a lot in this megathread because itās a pretty important thing to note about Saberon and Botani. There is a great deal of potential that I hope gets explored sometime. Preferably with playable Saberon coming out of, of course.
I could see something similar to the Zandalari racial, where Saberon could get a buff of some sort based on some criteria. I donāt know how elaborate it could be. Especially if it would be possible to base it on fur colors and patterns. Likely, itād be something any Saberon could get regardless of how players customized them to be fair, but itās still a cool thing to think about.
Also, I donāt expect much Saberon related at all in Dragonflight, but Iāll still keep an eye out for anything of interest. Speaking of, it is 11 days until Dragonflight releases! 
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Wanted to wish everyone a happy US Thanksgiving this week if you celebrate it. Whatever your plans are, I hope you all have a fun, happy, and safe holiday. And get to munch on a lot of delicious food, of course!
Hopefully, weāll see Saberon be able to enjoy Pilgrimās Bounty someday. Iām sure theyād love all the food and take a long cat nap afterwards. Iāll still keep hope to see them playable someday!
7 days until Dragonflight releases!
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I wouldnāt mind getting a buff similar to that, also I forget how to do that box thing with certain parts of someoneās text.
(Side note, this is Raion, some of my messages are still here, I just changed the name of the character and for some reason its treating it as two separate people. Not sure why.)
Botani, I dunno how I feel about them nowadays, because Iām unsure how much customization you could really give themā¦ HOWEVER, since blizzard is taking some inspiration from Guild Wars 2 recently, if they were to make Botani a playable race alongside the Saberon, they could take ideas from the Charr and Sylvari people of GW2. They look really good, and maybe some of the botani went into a stasis of some kind and evolved due to the energies within azeroth. Thus making them more peaceful and maybe even make them, appearance wise, more friendly looking. Could even say that the botani who had not evolved, view them as abominations and against the will of nature, thus they are hunting this subspecies down to cleanse Azeroth of their taintā¦ As is their plan with the rest of Azeroth. ALSO, since Blizzard is going more heavily on the āpeace between Horde and Allianceā thing, could say that the subspecies of Botani are seeking help from the Saberon, and maybe they form their own groups to better survive. Can make the quests to unlock them be a cross faction thing, while instanced we get to see horde AND alliance work to help these peopleā¦ However due to the savage nature of the Saberon the alliance would be unwilling to take the Saberon in. Just spouting out ideas as I go, but what do you think? Or how can the idea be improved upon?
Edit: Reread this, and got more ideasā¦ The Charr, what do we know em for? slowly looks at their tech that is very similar to the iron horde tech What is the Saberon allied race learned how to use that technology, making more savage and primal creations. Could be a cool little tid bit, but also a bit off putting I imagine, BUT been a number of years, and if Saberon lived alongside the Magāhar for awhile I imagine a couple could pick up on how to use that technology and maybe even build it.
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Do you mean the Saberon illusion? It is from a toy you can get in WoD.
The comments on there mention criteria of what you have to do to be able to get it. It also is a bit of RNG of the merchant you summon and their goods for sale, but it didnāt take too long to find it on them and buy it.
If you have any questions, Iāll do my best to answer them.
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Fur patterns, teeth, ears, facial features, things like jewelry or necklaces, scars, manes. There are quite a few customization options Saberon could have.
I still feel like theyāre an antagonist race, though not impossible to design them to be a playable race. I do think Arakkoa make a much better counterpart to Saberon, seeing as they have a history together and Arakkoa have been requested for many years.
Iām not against the idea of playable Botani at all of course. A lot would need to be written to get a group that wouldnāt be as evil as the ones weāve come across, but I still think Botani villains we have to deal with in the Barrens has a lot of potential and could be scary to see what all theyāve been up to since they landed on Azeroth.
For Saberon to be in the Alliance, they might have to be enlightened like Leorajh. The issue with that is Saberon culture may have changed quite a bit in such a process, which may not be the best for them in the long run. Itās possible not much could change with their culture, though I think theyād thrive most in the Horde with their culture in mind.
As for the Charr in GW2, that could be something to look at for playable Saberon idea inspiration. Iāll keep that in mind for a future post.
6 days until Dragonflight releases!
Playable Saberon would be grrrrrrrreat!
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Nah, mean the racial ability you mentioned, something similar to the trolls. Already have the Bloodmane Charm, when I learned of it I was dead set on getting it. kek. Also thanks for telling me how to quote.
At this point I was talking about Botani, since I at the moment believe if theyāll give us Saberon, Blizzard is likely to give Botani to the alliance, despite the Arakkoa making more sense, and being more highly requested. Then started listing ideas AFTER saying I was unsure. Saberon thoughā¦ Oh I have many many many ideas, and would LOVE to see the option to customize scars and fangs.
To be honest, they could also bring back the planned feline race from Pandaria, there is concept art of them after all. If the Alliance wants cat people, can easily make a group of tiger people who worship the White Tiger, taking inspiration from Chinese culture as well for their beliefsā¦ To be honest kinda wondering if thats where the models for Saberon come from, since they were made in MoP were they not? But either way, would remove the need to change the saberon from the race we know and love.
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ALSO can we mention this again? (Running through rereading this entire thread to refresh my memory) because I think this holds potential as a idea for a reasoning for how the Saberon may build their own culture. Would like to build on this idea through discussions, maybe if Blizzard ever reads this they can take the ideas we mention and work off em.
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Oh. Well they could have leaves and branches in their customization I guess. Honestly, Iām not the best person to ask since I mostly see them as an antagonistic race, so Iāll have to leave Botani customization ideas to those wanting them playable. Theyād do a better job than I could in that regard.
Hard to say, really. A lot would depend on how Blizzard would handle the storyline involving them, whether questlines in the Barrens would be a one-off thing or be tied into a future expansion, and if Yrel and the Lightbound are involved somehow in the future.
I could see Arakkoa somehow escaping to Azeroth in such an instance, which would open that possibility of them being playable and involve the Lightbound in some capacity, likely in an antagonistic role I assume. If there is a new expansion area where the Lightbound are involved, there could also be a faction of Arakkoa we help against them and get those Arakkoa to join up as a playable race later on. So it isnāt like there wouldnāt be opportunities for playable Arakkoa if Blizzard went the Saberon/Botani route.
I still mostly see Botani as an antagonist, since there is a lot of potential with them in the Barrens, taking over Wailing Caverns, and even have a Genesaur involved. Itās not impossible to design some as a playable faction, since weāve had some playable races that were once enemy mooks but got fleshed out more. (Dark Iron Dwarves and Zandalari, for example). Even something like Gilgoblins, who didnāt have a lot of depth in culture and such, got an awesome playable race candidate with the Kelfin.
I suppose it could tie into the Night Elf storyline as well with helping to grow a new home that Tyrande got. So anything is possible I guess, though I still see Botani as just an enemy NPC race.
Although come to think of it, if they did become playable, I wonder if that would mean whatever faction they join (probably Alliance if I were to guess), if that would give them access to Genesaurs to utilize in battle. Bit of a scary thought honestly. Moreso knowing what the Botani are capable of.
I honestly donāt know what the chances are Botani would be playable opposite of Saberon or if Arakkoa would be the opposite playable race instead of Botani. Iād personally prefer Arakkoa, though that is just my own personal preference.
If we ever see them come into fruition, Iām sure theyād be different from Saberon and be a completely different race. Not sure whether Blizzard would go that route or if theyād just work with Saberon more in the future. Itāll be something to report back on here if that ever happens.
Which is one of the reasons I feel like itās important to keep discussions going in race request megathreads within reason. You never know if something can come from showing support in general, though it isnāt a guarantee of course.
5 days until Dragonflight releases!
Playable Saberon would be grrrrrrrreat!
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To be honest Iām looking at Turyalyon (butchered his name I know) and he seemsā¦ Odd. With the introduction of the Dracthyr, he has zero faith in them, which I can understand, however itās clear that while Shaw may think heās fit for the job of leaderā¦ I donāt think the Spymaster exactly trusts him. The tone the two have when they talk to one another just makes things feel a little tense, and with Anduin out of the picture, I can DEFINITELY see the current High King going full Dues Vult soon. If this were to happen, I would HOPE to see the reintroduction of the Army of the Light from Alternate Draenor, and a civil war/rebellion breaking out in the alliance, because to be frank, Iām tired of the Horde getting all these corrupt leaders, leave them be and let the alliance have some fun with it. THAT, and more than likely Blizzard plans on bringing Anduin back, so good way to do so is to have him return to protect his people, thus leading the rebellion against the corrupt Alliance.
This idea can achieve multiple goals. One, if Blizzard so chooses they can end the rebellion/story with the removal of factions entirely, Iām a PvPer so while I think from a story perspective this makes sense, my only concern would be how this would affect WPvP, and rated content, just PvP overall. Two, if the Lightbound return, if they come to our worldā¦ Who do you think the protagonists will seek out for aid? People who have dealt with them in the past, thus, this would allow for us to gain access to the Arakkoa AND Saberon, because I doubt these two very brutal races would just stand by and not want in on the action while the people who hunted and slaughtered their own just waltz around and try to destroy their new home. Third, while weāre focusing on the light, the Botani are growing in power, thus becoming more of a concern, maybe even becoming a threat to the army of the light. We could get a new raid, battleground (please blizzard, us PvPers need us some new content, WEāRE STARVING!! Ya donāt need to reinvent the wheel, just give us the content ya already have with a different skin, I dont care at this point!), a cool story where weāre setting up a scene for a possible next expansion, updated map, return to the old world, AND some cool botani (or arakkoa and saberon) themed gear.
Give me youāre thoughts on this, would love to discuss these ideas furtherā¦ And I crave the ability to PvP and Rp as a dark furred panther man lurking in the shadows hunting down his prey!
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Happy US Thanksgiving!
Hope everyone celebrating has a fun, happy, and safe day today with lots of delicious food to eat! Also hoping Saberon will be able to enjoy Pilgrimās Bounty someday. Iām sure they would be purrfectly content after munching on all the food available!
4 days until Dragonflight releases!
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Itās very possible something could be planned with him in the future. We likely wonāt know for awhile, though.
I believe Stormwind has had some history with dragons of the āless than idealā type. So it makes some sense they would be dubious at first.
Iād be curious to see how the Lightbound would be treated in the future. It seems like something weād have to deal with at one point, possibly with them coming to Azeroth since AU Draenor is sorta deteriorating for some unspecified reason. I canāt imagine an expansion going back to AU Draenor, the area from one of the least popular expansions, would happen.
Though I do wonder if Turalyon would be receptive to the Lightbound, given that they likely have various denizens from AU Draenor within their ranks. I also donāt know if the Lightbound, if they did come to Azeroth, would be friendly at all or complete zealots. It could be interesting if done right.
I do think it would be a good opportunity to bring in playable Saberon and Arakkoa. Both would have storylines that would give reason for them receiving help from their respective factions from the Lightbound, and likely help with the Botani for the Saberon at least.
I do think this is something that should come up at some point, and it could very much involve Saberon and working together with the Horde.
It just falls into place the more you think about it. The Barrens has several oasises and Wailing Caverns and whatever power lies within it. Not to mention all the thorn areas with the Quillboar, which is something I would think Botani could easily use against them and take over areas also.
Itās a very worrying thing to think about, and it gives an opportunity for Saberon that came with us to be open to working with the Horde in order to combat the Botani threat. Thinking about how much time has passed and the corruption within the Wailing Caverns is really unnerving. Likely something the Horde would want to deal with, given how close Orgrimmar is.
It just seems like a really cool opportunity to have storylines, a revamped dungeon, ties up some loose ends, and gives us a cool playable race with the Saberon at least. Iām hopeful that weāll see it someday in-game and that Saberon would be willing to help out as opposed to being jobber mooks without much fleshing out. Itād be very disappointing to that become of them. But I still keep some hope theyād be treated better.
3 days until Dragonflight launches!
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Came across a neat art piece on DeviantArt of a Saberon that I donāt think has been shared. Itās of a Saberon sharpening a weapon and was created by manabreakfast, who uploaded it to DeviantArt on July 18th, 2017.
ācomm - saberonā by manabreakfast on DeviantArt
There is something about the Saberonās expression that gives him personality. Itās something Iād like to see more of if we run into some friendly Saberon in the future. Iāll continue to keep an eye out for some more art pieces to share for Saberon idea inspiration!
Also, Iām at 3 posts in a row, which means I canāt post more since I didnāt create the topic. If someone could reply so I can continue to make posts, Iād appreciate it. Thank you!
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Love this!
I stomp for saberon in every race request thread. One day.
One day.
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