just heard that lower rank spells will be having a “diminishing return” on spell power damage scaling, its not going to get rid of or slow down people until they get to stratholme live farming so its effort that looks like its a good attempt on slowing boosting but this does nothing long term
The nerf (Specific to Pally AoE farming) is just to item effects that were scaling 1 - 1 with Spell Power.
But if you’re just trying to start a riot I am cool with that too
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i did not know the specifics of the changes thank you for clarifying but if you think my post is a call to a riot then you have never even seen someone start a riot in a movie
I think all spells in TBC have diminishing returns on downranking at a certain point.
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Wasn’t it ways like that though?
It sounds like they just fixed a bug as those items shouldn’t of been receiving 1:1 scaling anyway.
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Yes, the lower the rank, the less % healing/SP is applied to the spell.
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It applies to spells learned @ lvl 20 and below. So for paladins this only affects Rank 1 Consecrate. Rank 2 is full damage.
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Is that just for damage spells and not healing. I could have sworn that rank 4 chain heal was the sweet spot for saving mana, while getting the most +healing applied? Or is this specific for items effects that scale with spell power? It’s been a long time since i played TBC though, so i may be confused haha.
It is exactly what it is, they did the same thing with classic and screamed bloody murder for a year about how they couldn’t exploit items like on private servers.
There are plenty of forums on the classic area probably.
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Any action that has a +spell power component regardless of damage or healing has a special layer of nerf applied for spells learned at or below lvl 20. It’s likely that the midrange rank of a spell will be the highest efficiency just do the mana cost function not being linear with the base damage/healing of the spell.
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It’s a TBC feature that was in the game back then and is being added to the game now. It’s called “Spell coefficients”. Lower rank spells only get a certain % of the +healing / damage you have from gear. Downranking the way it was done in vanilla / classic was not intended on that scale (Using rank 1-2 in naxx) and blizzard fixed it in TBC. It applied to items as well.
The reason so many people think it’s a bug or a change is that private servers didn’t have it. Cause you know, they’re pirated servers and they didn’t get everything right. So people who pirated the game are going “But that’s not the TBC I remember”
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Even in Classic they do, yeah. It’s nothing new.
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im just curious if this is another intentional change that we’re going to hear 0 feedback from blizz on. everything would be great if Kaivax would poke his head in and go “oh, whoops. our bad” or “yep, intended”
this is 2 things now that paladins are potentially being screwed on.
But it wasn’t
Yeah lower level spells get nerfed…
At lvl 60 it’s going to be nerfed thats the major issue I think.
I won’t be able to farm all of pre-patch
Are they gonna go after other low level items that scale directly like the Warrior’s Diamond Flask or the level 40 druid helm with the insane skill on it? I honestly am baffled at targeted nerfs on very strong low level items.
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Yes to Diamond Flask, no to Wolfs Hide Helm.
Not saying Wolfs Hide Helm couldn’t get changed, but nothing suggests that it will and it is BiS until SWP and arguibly BiS in SWP
100% agree .
Nerf diamond flask
The mage haste trinket bwl
Warlocks trinket from bwl
Rogues zg trinket
Nerf everything instead of something that barely let’s paladins keep up with mages aoe farm
To clarify, this does check out with old forum posts about how SFS worked. This isn’t a nerf, it’s a bug fix.
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This is a reason that FAR EXCEEDS the reason Blizzard is using to nerf the paladin items. So your answer is “nerf all the other non-druid stuff and let me keep MY broken low level items”.
It’s a little frustrating because the druid helm is possibly the most broken item out of all the low level items that are viable in TBC. Yet…we see nerfs on items that don’t even approach this power level.
Targeted nerfs like this give the idea of bias and class discrimination as the same reasoning for item balance doesn’t exist with other classes in the same way.
Nerf all the low level items or keep them all the same. None of this targeted crap.