Hang on. So you’re saying UHDK is at the top in PvE. Which logs are indicating that? Because none of the ones I can find on either of the major logging websites seem to corroborate. They’re doing well in high key M+ and mythic raids, but there are multiple class/spec combinations well ahead of them.
For some reason Blizz won’t let me link them. But I checked out Archon Warcraft logs, Wowhead, and Mythicstats.
Depending on which data site you chose, if not number one, DK’s are easily in the top 5 or so, doing extremely well for M+ and Raid. We paladins are almost jealous.
Feel free to link it, as you wont, as you are wrong, i already linked the top 100 2v2 3v3 and 5v5 and rated bgs, you are simple incorrect, post on your main 13k posts 13IQ.
No one is talking about PVE, no one mentioned PVE, his post was about PVP, they are PVP changes, he mentioned pvp mutliple times, stop crapping up the thread, go to bed.
Frost was destroyed and you cant play blood, what are people sopposed to play? Buff frost if you want to see other specs, and again, you cant link anything you claim becasue its not true, dont spout crap without FACTS, this is about FACTS not feelings and you cheery picked my argument about AWC, what about it PLUS 2v2 bracket, PLUS 3v3, PLUS rated bgs, you are a lost casue mate go to bed.
You can play frost or unholy. They’re both fine. If you need your class to be grossly overpowered to compete then it’s time to reroll.
Ill repeat what I already wrote and ignore you if you cant link evidence.
Post on your main, and link where in the top 200 players in 2v2, 3v3, rated bg’s, or awc that they are over represented.
You simply cant, you are going off feelings, well I hate to break it to you, but we are talking FACTS not feelings. Link your evidence or get out of the thread.
To restate: There is 5 dk’s in the top 100 2v2, 5 in the top 100 3v3, 11 in the top 100 rated bgs, and 1 in awc, this is not a good pvp spec.
Delusional
Again no facts, no evidence. It’s like you went to court without a lawyer kek gg no re.
Well the jury is out. 15% less damage. GG no re.
again no facts, just feelings, no main account, x3 i tried with your childish behaviour, /ignored.
I feel… like the nerf were warranted. Yes. Feelings validated.
other classes got a slap on the wrist so they can claim they nerfed them without actually doing anything. this nerf kneecaps riders and since sanlayn damage is based entirely on how much VP and DC do, its completely gutted.
Did you happen to read the patch notes on the disease and death coil nerf where it specifies PVP CHANGES??? Do you even know what you’re talking about? Or just like arguing something you had no idea about?
I wanna thank you as a fellow dk and someone who actually has a brain. Excellent detailed post you made by the way
Ah my main post? Yes, it’s a wall of text, but I wrote like I was doing an audit, all facts no feelings, thank you. ox.
I always try and be unbiased with classes i play. Our dots were hitting a bit too hard, but the nerf to death coil aswell i think is a bit harsh. I dont think the class will be unplayable, but with us also losing acess to our stun with our silence. Securing a kill might feel a bit problematic. Unholy is usually in a decent spot, so im not going to worry about it too much. I just hope we get a buff to apocolypse or something to compensate for the nerf to our sustained damage
Enjoy the nerfs guys. I hear kitty cats are strong these days. Maybe you can reroll to druid?
Just ignore them already, quit this beating around the bush nonsense and just do it.
You are limiting the information you want to a very small subset so that you can never be wrong. You are trying to get to the truth of the matter and limiting the information people can pull from only using less than 1% of the total overall data.
Your stuff wouldnt hold up in court either. You went to court with not even 1% of the overall data. Thats not how you do things. Why are you limiting data so much exactly?
Also you didnt present all facts in your long post.
This doesnt happen. Your dots tick at a certain rate no matter your haste %.
This isnt going to kill the spec.
Realistically though im tired of seeing all this nonsense and Blizzard doesnt even really look at class forums. Your yelling at people on the forums that can do absolutely nothing about any of it. Unholy was nerfed, the information that Blizzard has is across the board and not just limited to 0.001134% of the entire playerbase.
If you are going to continue playing it then look for a work around, if you arent then move on to something you consider better.
In fairness, a lot of that seemingly inflated damage was coming from the dot spread. Their damage was in a pretty good place - not overtuned, not undertuned - on an individual basis. The path Blizzard decided to go will certainly bring the inflated cleave numbers down, but it will also severely damage the single-target output of UHDKs not focused around their pets. They’re essentially forcing us to go back to the 45 second go garbage we were stuck with before, and basically nobody wants it.