He has acknowledged that as far as I can see but is going to argue about the usage of the word cap.
Except that 3’s has more baked in inflation.
Because there is no cap.
Or you’re using the term incorrectly. Which is unhelpful.
I honestly think the verbiage here is a ridiculous thing to debate and completely irrelevant. It technically is working as a cap as it is limiting mmr movement
Guy is so upset he brought in the mean orange man.
Man we have like two seasons with bugged mmr and everybody wants it to stay like that forever
There is an ocean in MMR.
Is ‘ocean’ the correct word?
Does it help you understand what is going on with MMR?
This is them talking about the soft cap. They gave more inflation to 3s and restricted mmr gains in shuffle.
You don’t understand what you’re talking about.
Some say not enough.
That is actually exactly what we have right now. Bugged MMR in shuffle!
So you agree that blizz manualy inject the inflation into bracket. That leads to a point they did not do that for RSS which resulted in players not being able to climb a X rating (depending on time of the season). So the players which got to that point were not gaining any CR and were stuck = were cappped. Thank you.
Looks to be about where it should be.
Blitz is obviously out of line.
Soft cap can have multiple meanings, including:
- Cryptocurrency
The minimum amount of funding a new crypto project needs to raise during an initial coin offering (ICO). If the ICO doesn’t raise enough, the project may be canceled and the funds returned to investors. Soft caps are often not strictly enforced, and many teams have raised funds without defining one.
- Golf
In the World Handicap System, a soft cap is a limit that prevents a player’s handicap index from rising too quickly due to a poor run of scores. The soft cap is calculated by adding three strokes to the player’s lowest handicap in the previous 12 months.
- Role-playing games
In games like Elden Ring, a soft cap is a level where the stat bonuses gained by leveling up change. After reaching a soft cap, the more a player levels up, the less value they get from that stat.
- Ruined masonry
Soft capping is a technique that involves covering ruined walls with grass and other soft plants instead of stone, mortar, or cement. This can have long-term conservation benefits
Of course.
But that doesn’t mean there is a cap.
Blitz requires 16 people 4 of those healers and consistently across all mmrs has far faster queues than shuffle does while shuffle has 4-5x more participation than ladder so I think it’s safe to say that it’s participation driven mmr. Yeah they probably should’ve soft capped it
You’re trying to argue semantics while not understanding what you’re even saying. And someone can explain it to you and you just respond with the same thing. It’s literally impossible to reason with you.
It’ll be throttled and dead next season.
What would compel somebody to do such a thing
A lot higher participation and a lot more activity than in 3s but the median of shuffle top 100 is lower than of 3s top 100.
When ratings are based on MMR and when MMR is the result of participation and activity, how could that potentially be?!
It might be where you want it to be, but in a normal environment without devs keeping ratings artificially low to let 3s not feel unrewarding, shuffle mmr would be a lot closer to BBG mmr than to 3s mmr.
So the current shuffle mmr situation is obviously “bugged” to take your wording. Let it free, no reason to keep it artificially low for the remaining 10 players who are active in 3s.
Well, actually that is also wrong. Could you get 10k rating for example, even when you would play 16 hours a day, winning every single game? No, you couldn’t! So the system itself comes a long with a cap.
It might be variable and not set in stone, but technically its still capped!
Semantics are important when you’re trying to improve understanding.
If I said “Flergl medrahl noldal grache MMR”. You’d go, “What?”.
I’m not sure if you’re misreading things on purpose. Either way, I realize it’s a waste of time despite linking a thread where they talked about limiting shuffle mmr, which is a soft cap. You misread Kaivax talking about a cap on the highest of ratings and misunderstanding, or blatantly ignoring other context.
You’re trying to redefine the word ‘cap’ to mean ‘lack of inflation’, which could cause readers to become confused, when you have the ability to just refer to it as a ‘lack of inflation’, instead of using the word ‘cap’ and avoid confusing the topic.
Just like the habit of referring to players of less ability as bots, then we get a flood of posters complaining about botting, and they actually think the other player is a program, because they misunderstood the redefinition which has gone on when they originally read a post complaining about players of less ability.