The system usually auto-creates an extension thread when one hits the post cap, so it should happen.
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I was using sarcasm, I even noted that. The “woosh” was to highlight that my statement went over your head, which is evident since you’re now fixating on the only part that was facetious instead of addressing my actual point.
That point being: it’s entirely possible Blizzard could change their minds or do something unexpected. You could argue that this borders on special pleading, which I think is what you were getting at with “different rewards have different rules.” However, as many of us have pointed out, Blizzard has been inconsistent in applying those rules.
I’ll reiterate: if you have nothing of substance to add, just move on.
If you think my argument is poorly thought out, then address the argument not my character.
Calling criticism a “tantrum” is just a lazy way to avoid engaging with what’s actually being said.
If you disagree, explain why but misrepresenting others doesn’t make your argument stronger.
The relationship between player and developer is transactional and built on trust; players invest time and money, and in return have expectations. When it no longer feels like the players expectations are being met they disengage.
See above
Presupposing that my arguments are “dumb” while offering nothing to actually challenge them isn’t debate, it’s dismissal.
If you think my reasoning is flawed, then demonstrate how it’s flawed. Simply declaring it so doesn’t make it true.
I’ll address these 3 together.
Firstly, conditional reasoning isn’t reductionism; misreading it as such is. My argument explicitly describes a subset of cases: I’ll say it again, if someone is only playing for the reward, then the reward is the motivating factor, It doesn’t claim this applies universally.
Secondly, I agree that WoW’s gameplay loop is fundamentally “do something, get something.” But that doesn’t undermine my point. My argument isn’t that rewards never enhance the experience
Treating the reward as “part of the content” conflates the incentive that drives behavior with the gameplay experience, which is exactly what my conditional reasoning isolates.
Lastly, I included your statement about projection and “flailing around” in this section because, in your long-winded response, “the reward is part of the content” is the only point where you actually attempt a substantive counterclaim. That said, as explained above, this counterclaim misunderstands my argument and therefore fails to address the point.
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Blizzard, just bring back the mage tower weapons already.
People who own the mage tower weapons, such as myself, genuinely don’t care about their exclusivity one bit.
Let everyone else enjoy what I currently enjoy: the mage tower weapon appearances.
Absolutely no reason not to.
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No, it makes the point that I wanted a unique reward, exactly like I did on my non-druid toons. If it was '“more impactful" I wouldn’t have bothered with the rest. My druid wasn’t even in the top 3 toons I did the challenge on.
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Who anointed you spokesman for all of us? I certainly do care and you don’t speak for me, or anybody else against it here.
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This is the correct outlook to have on the situation.
Any other opinions on the subject are completely invalid and aren’t even worth addressing.
You’re just a troll and people should pay zero attention to what you say.
Hope this helps, enjoy your day 
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Come on buddy. Stop calling the mage tower a challenge - it was a complete afk faceroll.
When I did the havoc challenge, I used potion and meta, got boss down to 10% before my stun wore off and phased it.
Used drums on second phase, killed boss (without meta) before any adds even spawned.
Be realistic. The mage tower was just a participation trophy.
The most skillful part of me completing the havoc mage tower was walking to the auction house and buying a potion and drums.
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There claim was that they’ve been discussing this for half a decade:
During and after the very end of the expansion where I finally had enough time to play but was incorrectly informed about the state of the challenge.
It’s actually been a bit longer:
Now while I can’t verify that the events Firegrasp said happened actually happened (being wrongly informed)
The fact they’ve been consistent in their story for half a decade lends credibility to their statement.
I don’t disagree with your statement that people should cite sources when making a claim but I find it far less bothersome than someone who simply dismisses a claim by asserting it’s a lie without anything to back it up.
Over the last decade, we’ve seen the rise of “fake news” being used to dismiss anything and everything regardless of its validity. We’ve got people insisting the Earth is flat, shouting at clouds, and undermining decades of well-established medical practice and it needs to stop. /rant
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I’m another Mage Tower Weapon holder in favor of this
A ton of us exist
Bring back the MT! Or provide satisfying (sparkling) rewards!
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I’ve actually been saying if they give us recolours they should just give us the OG cuddles with the VFX disabled as a compromise (because I mainly care about color) but you know what, you make a really good point.
Their justification for reintroducing the Felbear was that there was nothing quite like it because it was so different to all the other forms but so is sparkles and a trail. So yeah bring back the sparkles!
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Agreed!
They gave us more gorilla bears - so create a few more sparkle cats for us now!
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make it scale so it’s alway sa challenge.
ah is this why not one raids until an expansion or two later?
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You didn’t do the challenge because you didn’t feel like doing it and that’s a good thing.
This is an example of why FOMO is bad.
We shouldn’t feel forced into doing content because there’s some really cool reward locked behind it, we should be able to choose to play the game how we want to play the game without the fear of missing out on something. The perfect balance is situations where we enjoy something and want the reward.
if a player wants to be challenged they won’t skip it.
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*God has entered the chat
“People who disagree with me are trolls!!1”
Your mental is weak.
Thanks boo.
Come on buddy. Stop calling the MT a complete afk faceroll- it was a complete challenge.
I like that story.
What a twist.
That 72% of players didn’t get? Hmm…
X
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The difficulty varied by class and spec. Some folks might disagree, but I don’t think the Guardian Druid one was ever “easy.” Too many mechanics that would one-shot you if you if you timed them wrong. Gear helped burn faster, but it didn’t save you from messing up mechanics.
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I didnt do it because I plan to do it when I can roflstomp it for the mount. Theres no point in doing a challenge if the reward has no worth in a few months.
Completely the opposite. People share the same mindset. Why do something now when I can roflstomp it in a year.
I did the mage tower for all the classes I wanted them on for one reason. That reason is because they would have something extremely rare as time goes on.
Because you don’t want to do the challenge.
Yes, they’re people who don’t want to do the challenge either.
For the exact same reason you mentioned below:
The pattern here is that you do things because you want the reward.
You prefer to not do the challenge when the reward doesn’t disappear
But you do the challenge when the reward will disappear.
Therefore you’re driven to do challenges when you fear you will miss out on their reward, as such you’re participating in an activity you’d prefer not to do because your preference is to wait until it’s easier.
The people who do the challenge either:
- Enjoy doing challenges, or;
- Want the reward sooner, or;
- Both of the above.
There’s nothing wrong with any of this, you and them are playing the game the way you want to play the game, this is a good thing.
What isn’t a good thing is when a player feels like they have to play the game in a way that isn’t their preference because they will miss out on something if they don’t and as we have established, the only time you’re manipulated into doing something that isn’t your preference is when a reward will not be obtainable later on.
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Some people, especially the one you are quoting are just people that cant accept another persons opinion. They need to be in their echo chamber to bounce back and forth at only their opinion to justify it being the ultimate truth when it is not. It’s quite sad they have to insult and throw claims at others for different opinions instead of acting like an adult but hey here we are, he is going at it since ages on his paladin where he used to post on. 
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Same with Healer challenges aside from Disc priest