Haven’t played a DK since LK. Heavily weighing my options on whether to alt a DK or DH for DF. DK is probably the coolest melee ever, but DH is easy and I already know how to play it. lol
So gonna spend the next week or so playing DK to make my decision. I don’t read notes, etc. so something lead me to water and tell me if I’m playing Frost or Unholy–whatever I choose I don’t want to switch specs for PVE, so if one or the other is better for both that’s my choice; even if Unholy does look a lot cooler than Frost.
Unholy is middle of the pack mythic+ on beta, unsure about raids but it’s single target is still strong. Pvp wise seems like the strongest if your going to solo shuffle alot due to frost having to setup a lot more.
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Unholy it is. Definitely the cooler spec anyway.
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Frost has like no setup other than bunching 2 people together. They can also burst every minute or less.
Unholy by far, way more control and utility
Mes is saying frost is better than unholy for arenas.
But he’s playing dk at another level so.
We need Petkick to tell us why unholy is the only answer
the dmg is better and its almost as consistent as frost dmg and it doesn’t require as much set up as frost does, frost is pretty much rng most of your dmg is relying on not only chill steak but killing machine procs that make your obilerate do frost dmg which is based off mastery stacking and without it you just wont do any decent dmg even with cooldowns (edit) if you use one handers in pvp your better useing the pve build that revolves around cookie cutter talent options that buff howling blast or remorseless dmg which gives strong consistent dmg but its not bursty and it will be very hard to secure kills, ive had better luck with double dps comps mainly paladin which gives good off heals and bop when needed which helps with alot of pyhsical dmg dealing comps because a death knight you have no defensives towards pyhsical so alot of times you just struggle alot with the preasure and alot of times you can get trained for example by warriors
During your goes you get guaranteed killing machine procs… There is no setup aside from getting 2 people close enough to chill streak.
Your burst windows are every 45s with pillar CD being reduced with killing machine procs and are legit frost strike → Oblit repeat.
UH has like 4 globals to go through before they can even begin thinking about bursting.
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it just depend on build i dont ue oblieration because your missing on the 30% dmg buff to oblierate
You still use Obliteration with dual wield currently. Frost is even better at 70 with constant 125k obliterates with Motfw and obliteration.
frost is gated hard right now level 70 gets better because you get frozen waste passive and oblierateration which gives instant killing machine procs
You still get guaranteed killing machine procs during Pillar of Frost with the obliteration build.
its not all that good tho
Its extremely good. I hit constant 30k obliterates during Pillar.
idk I think frost has setup. Grip healer>blind>remorse winter and let it stack>chill streak>abom limb+pillar. Not super brainlet stuff, but if you’re not getting these goes you’re not winning most likely.
Issue with frost is disarms and does zero damage outside of pillar. You can get pillar to like 45 sec cd in DF, but every disarm is also 45 sec cd. So any team with a rogue/war is gonna just shut you down super hard. Might be good to play with an hpal if they’re good to get around that.
I’m talking 30k main hand lol.
Almost all of those are off gcd lol.
Literally everything listed here is on the GCD except pillar.
I am talking about anything that requires setup. You literally macro your CDs. Pop abom, blind, chill streak or grip if you dont have two on you already. Then spam frost strike → oblit. There is no setup lmfao.
Compare that to UH, which is what this thread is about.