Understanding Raider IO

Me too. Honestly the fact that it’s so easily failable has me not doing it when I could be.

I’m coalescing vision capped.

I realise I’m not gaining anything by wasting my visions, but psychologically the combined factors are daunting:

  1. Can easily fail
  2. No practice mode for those not comfortable yet
  3. Cost of tries is so high

I’m sure you know I don’t mean this in a bag way but I have probably single handedly been responsible for bricking more keys than you even tried last season. It happens. People get over it. It’s no big deal. Invites still come

Yeah IO really aggravate me also. I don’t raid, don’t have time to these days. Also I have hated the concept of mythics. However I recently started running some mythics and they have grown on me.

I like being able to still progress my character and the pace of mythic runs is more convenient for me not having a lot of time to raid. However because I haven’t spent a lot of time running mythic my IO blows. A player who’s played since launch and typically out DPSs equal or slightly higher geared players, because I know my class well, and it’s next to impossible to get into a mythic group.

I’m in a good guild, they raid mostly. Often when guildies are running mythics its lower keys than what I need or what will boost my IO. In pugs, I can sit there for over an hour a get decline after decline.

I’m a player who understands mythics, bosses, affixes, just cant get into any groups. I’ve been lucky maybe once a week to find a group to get my weekly chests but not enough groups to significantly raise my IO. Every group I’ve tried to get into I’ve met the ilvl requirement also.

Also hard since many players are looking to be babied and carried, so they will be more likely to choose a player with a higher IO and ilvl thinking they will cost through the run which isn’t always the case.

I can understand why anyone would be frustrated with IO and mythics. For some mythics like in my case are the path to progression that works best and not being able to find groups really sucks. End up sitting around debating just quitting or stop playing my main since the IO is become a big wall blocking my path. I’ve ended up sticking with my main however as not itching to regrind everything in BFA on an alt.

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Thats a big misconception that players like you who do not push high keys have. Its basically you doing low key runs with people on their alts or genuine casual low key players and you think your performance compared to theirs makes you such a great player. But put you in any decent group of players with high io and you fall way short.

Ive only ever seen people who can barely complete low keys complain that they cant get invites to 11+ keys but you cant even put in the effort to do 8-10 keys to get a half decent score in the first place.

If they are as good as they say they should be easily able to time lower keys to push their io up gradually and get invited to higher keys.

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Raider IO is a valuable tool but it does get used in ways its not meant to. On low keys, which I will say is anything lower than a 7, while IO can be used I often see people wanting 1.2k+ players only for their group.

I even saw people with 1k scores from last season getting denied groups for something like a +2 when 8.3 dropped. On low keys, IO score is meaningless because its barely a step above base mythic and even on high keys IO score should be taken with a grain of salt since people can buy carries and artificially inflate their IO score.

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Yeah, sometimes that happens. But usually if you tell em up front before you put in the key that it’ll be a chill run and probably won’t make time, the tryhards will leave on their own.