I have a R14 rogue on whitemane RN you’re uber bad if you’re getting glazed by rets in classic…
Are you talking R14 rogue vs a Full Naxx geared ret or??
Ret might be the very worse pvp spec in all of classic
If you have full cds up a Spriest or Lock is your only tough match up. I don’t say hunter because 99.9% of hunters are not good and hunter pvp requires you to overcome gigantic disadvantages before you even start a fight.
Ive said repeatedly its T1 rogue vs R14 ret, basically a phase 2 fight. 1 single hoj with reck stack is a dead rogue. You have to vanish the hoj batch or use a consumable to immune it so you can evasion the reck.
Your opener gives them a full stack of reck, grandmarshal sword hitting you 5x while stunned + a hammer of wrath is enough to kill a 5k hp rogue.
This is 2+2=4 stuff there isnt an argument against what im saying its just reality. Not naxx geared rogue that can gimp plate in the opener. T1 rogue.
Ret is brain dead, no skill required, doesn’t change the math of dead T1 rogue in hoj.
Reset for bubble etc but getting caught in hoj from a r14 ret with 5k hp rogue after stacking his reckoning up is basically death and if not hammer finishes.
Depends if they’re Reck or not, Reck ret is deadly, regular rep ret is survivable. Most of the paladins play Rep ret, and do not scare me a bit, tho there are a couple of good ones but they’re kinda crazy geared so it hard to say where the gear begins and the skill ends, but really its a PVP hybrid support class designed to be played to support warriors and priests and in that role they dunk on everyone kinda hard. You say worst spec, but that’s more likely the players playing them, not the class. Who’s your rogue and why don’t you PVP anymore?
I say this because if a reasonably geared Reck pala even with piggy on a stick lands a hoj on you as a rogue; and any of his swings crit, its suddenly GG well played because you’re dead. Had one land 6200 damage in a global on me while in 2.5 in classic 2019, its shocking how much damage reck can do.
Excellent use of consumables, I wish I had engineering on my rogue back then or the newer one I have now. My undead rogue is on cata RIP, but I have an alliance rogue now and he’s gearing up still. T1 is so strong, most people underestimate how excellent that 5pc bonus actually is, just don’t get hit kek.
Hahah exactly. Duel servers helped me figure that out after trying everything, wanted something attainable relatively easily and the bonus energy is a big deal tbh. Lets you run pvp 3set still too.
I ran that 5pc T1 and the 3pc T2 for the poison procs; with how break evens work on procs the t2 also works out really good because it brings you from what is in reality a 1 in 4 shot at crip proc to a 1 in 3 shot to crip proc per weapon swing. It’s kinda insane. I love how good T1 actually is, especially when you pair with perds and if you can get one CHT + Bhb and the PVP trinket if you dont have undead or any other trinket if you’re undead.