Been hearing that Ulduar is getting a raid wide nerf by numerous people (not related) in and outside of our guild but I’ve yet to see anything on the forum or an external site, can anyone shed light on this as to why people are saying it or are they just struggling and hoping for a non confirmed nerf
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Why nerf already easy content, buff warrior and feral
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I agree with you, just curious if I’ve missed some important information
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Blizzard basically put in the hardest possible version of Ulduar by looking at previous patch notes and excluding anything that made the raid easier. Clearly at some points this went too far because XT ended up impossible and had to be subsequently nerfed.
As a philosophy I’m kind of okay with this for the first few weeks of raiding to give the more hardcore guilds something of a challenge. But long term I’m not in favour of this approach - I’d rather have raids tuned to the level that Blizzard ultimately decided was best for Ulduar, i.e. the somewhat nerfed versions.
Leaving Ulduar as the hardest possible version feels a lot like Season of Mastery WotLK. I wasn’t interested in playing SoM classic and I don’t want to play SoM WotLK. I’m in a mid tier guild so I’d be perfectly happy being able to progress through hard modes that hardcore players would deride as laughably easy.
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I haven’t seen anything and doubt any nerfs are coming any time soon. Personally I wouldn’t be surprised if there were no additional nerfs before TOGC release.
Full HM Ulduar is hard but nothing crazy, and just clearing out Ulduar is very simple so it honestly strikes a good balance between being casual and allowing a sense of progression or even just being laid back enough to do a few easy HMs.
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Nothing needs to be nerfed. XT needed a nerf because it was impossible, unless maybe with a perfect comp decked in as much 252 gear as you can a few weeks before ToC releases. That’s all.
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If it ever gets nerfed as a whole it’d be right before TotGC releases.
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Their original plan was to introduce nerfs midway through phase 2 like they did with TK/SSC in tbc.
That could have changed by now though, but haven’t heard anything since.
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Why would they nerf it? It’s great atm normal mode isn’t hard. Hardmodes are challenging but definitely doable. It’s a good balance.
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if ulduar remains relevant even after the next tier , i don’t think there will be any nerf
XT was the only problem. Raid is fine now. The buffed gear is nerfing the hell out of it week by week. We went from making the IC burn by less than 1 second to killing it before the first tank dies, with time to spare.
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It’s hard to think of any fights for which a nerf wouldnt make them braindead boring. It feels so well-tuned right now.
Perhaps the only thing that could use a nerf is the Big Bang mechanic in 10m so you dont need very specific specs for such a small raid size.
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Ulduar will get nerfs eventually. I wouldnt expect them until we are getting close to Roac though
The Ret buff was the nerf… 
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The achievements already exist for elitists to struggle over. Regular players just want to do the content.
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They said in a interview they will nerf it before the phase is over. No one knows when though.
Do you think the gear gains from launch to now would have made XT pre nerf doable?
Im curious because everyone was complaining it didnt die first few weeks when majority still had mostly naxx gear
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Are people asking for normal mode nerfs or hardmode nerfs? Normal modes are very doable and gives the mid tier characters a way to “see and do” the content.
The hardmodes feel great. If players are asking for a nerf just to make hardmode gear easier to get then that’s a pass for me. Instead of being lazy, try improving as a team.
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It’s not a question of if it should be nerfed or not. It’s a question of when the nerfs are coming, because it is a fact that they will be nerfed as it was already confirmed.
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Yeah I remember them saying they would. I hope it’s not until the end of phase 2. The raid is a lot of fun how it is now.
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