raid gear from a dungeon?!! Really!!@? Not even just raid gear, but BiS phase 2 raid gear!!@! So dumb. Easy mode hand-out central. This expac gonna Die fast, Gratz you guys got what you wanted.
This is coming from someone that hasn’t seen Runestone drop yet the whole phase. Why couldn’t Blizz just make 10 man drop 2 pieces of HM loot. this is such garbage. No sense of accomplishment. Just straight hand outs.
Better gear for free than normal mode ToC. lol what a joke. I honestly hated running Uld 10 every week and never seeing icecore staff drop or Runestone and it was super fustrating. The hardmode loot system was punishing but come on, they couldn’t just leave BiS raid gear in raids and increase Drops…
Ya’ll think you want it but you don’t…
LIKE FOR REAL WHY DO YOU NEED 239 BIS RAID LOOT TO CATCH UP@!@! ISN’T THAT WHAT TOC NORMAL IS FOR?? ISN’T THAT WHAT THE 225 GEAR IS FOR!@@! 239 GEAR IN A DUNGEON!@!@! WTF!@!@ THIS RUINES THE INTERGRITY OF THE GAME@!@! WTF!@@ LEAVE RAID GEAR IN A RAID!@!@ INCREASE DROPS!@!@ A 5 MAN???!@@ WTF!@
HEY BLIZZ why not just mail us all the 239 gear!@!@??!@@! huh??!@ what is this call of duty loadout??!@?
Chill and enjoy the game dude…
Are you really that triggered that people will get loot via dungeons?
As far as we know Protocol Beta is different from Protocol Alpha so probably this new iteration of rune dungeons are going to be really hard probably need to be around 4.8kgs and some brain to do it.
They could also add a cap to how many new currency you can get from these dungeons it could be probably 1 per day or 5 per week who knows.
For some weapons you need like 40 coins so people will still do Ulduar 10hm specially because once Toc comes out it will get nerfed so you can pretty much down it in less time and even pug it.
25hm loot and valanyr frags are still locked to 25 man mode so most bises for people are still in there.
So people will run these new dungeons for currency to get 10hm loot.
People will still run 10hm to get their loot faster (and probably these new dungeons are going to be really hard for some so better to try an easier nerfed 10 ulduar)
People can do TOC nm in 25 and 10 for ok gear.
People will still need to run Ulduar 25 HM for 252 ilvl for some bis which is nearly as strong as Toc which is ilvl 258 in Heroic. And of course to still get a valanyr.
People will progress in TOC HC and get the new tier.
I think they handle it pretty good. It adds a lot of end game content and you can get gear from many sources
I also think it doesn’t matter what other people get so we should give fresh 80s full 10m Ulduar hm when they ding or better add it in the shop for 50$. It doesn’t matter how they get it and as long as 25m hm Ulduar loot is somewhat relevant everything is ok.
So just chill, it doesn’t matter how people get their loot and gear progression is meaningless.
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The whole point for many was to dodge the terrible M+ design of retail, adding a new currency to make people farm dungeons even longer doesn’t seem anything fun. This is literally the retail plague, a design made purely for engagement not for players. If they truly wanted 10m hm to drop in dungeons then just make it drop from dungeons.
If they wanted to gate it with a currency just add Ulduar loot table to the emblems vendors, we already got a currency for gear. This is the worse choice out of everything again to get more engagement, not for players.
We also wouldn’t be talking about this much if they didn’t make hard mode loot higher. So this is just a double failure to incentivize clearing hard mode content to then switch it away.
You didnt read the patch notes very well. 10m normal ulduar gear drops in the new heroic+ dungeons not sure how that is 239 gear. Ulduar 10m normal drops normal 25 man gear and u still have to do 10m hms for that gear and 25m hms for that gear.
How did you not see this coming. 25m loot will remain 25m, 10m will give 25m loot, and 10m will drop in beta dungeons. Ulda will be nerfed and will turn into lootfest. And people will love it, only really need 1 hard raid aka icc25h.
bro chill out. it’s going to be 1 currency per dungeon, and you will still have to do an entire world tour + extra the next day just to buy 1 non-weapon.
you also complained about the BiS items from crafting and buying tier pieces for emblems right? cause that’s the same thing
This is pretty disheartening. It’s like Blizzard is pushing people to unsubscribe between each patch.
There’s no incentive to stay subbed for an entire phase. When ToC releases, we’ll be able to experience all the HMs in the first couple weeks, then we don’t even need to worry about gear and we can just immediately take a break until ICC because we know that they’ll allow us to catch up on gear in just 1-2 weeks after we come back.
Maybe if you raid just for the gears, but a lot of people raid because they like raiding…
And we don’t know what will be the limit for the sidereal essence. I figure that its will drop only in a bag at the end of a heroic ++ daily like they did for the emblems from Heroic +.
If it’s the case and you can only have 1 essence by day that can take a lot of time to have your 10m HM loot from essence so you will need to continue farming Ulduar 10m. But we will probably have 2 or 3 essence by bag by day.
And we also dont know what the heroic ++ will look like. Maybe its will be a pain in the a** for the majority of the people and at the end better for many people to just continue doing 10m Ulduar.
