Uhm, why is Cata barely keeping up with SoD raiding numbers?

Yep.

MOP had China Pandaring gate drama. Pun intended.

WOD was flying gate. blizzard said if you care that much about flying maybe this game is not for you. Then we saw how many cared about that flying lol. Till they stopped reporting that lol. and thus entered pathfinder.

Was a copy paste from another thread that was more relevant, my point is still made.

Yes you agreed that millions of people disliked Cata.

You have no idea why they quit.

I quit in cata, my sub is 1 of them that is gone.

I joined the Navy, it had nothing to do with Cata.

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Okay? And people were joining the navy before Cata launched as well.

Eh wow is kind of generational.

Im assuming more people started doing other things the same time i did, early 20s when Cata launched.

My point is you have no idea why they left.

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There’s no reason to think that there was a massive spike in people leaving for personal reasons in Cata when the logical explanation is that the game was simply not as good as it had been.

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Im not saying the game wasnt as good as it “has” been, you noticed it NEVER got back to that?

You notice no other MMO ever reached that level??

I wonder why?

Thats kind of when MMOs started to fall off tbh, also didnt League launch in 2010?

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WoW obviously had a lot of momentum from being the first genuinely casual friendly MMO RPG. Which Cata killed and blizzard never managed to get back, that other companies have insisted on just making WoW clones doesn’t help.

what a massively dumb post.

comparing logged raiding characters between:

  • week 1 launch where people had to level up, gear to an ilvl gate, grind heroics THEN do a long and reasonably challenging week 1 raid

vs

  • week 20 or whatever of people sitting on multiple world buffed/full bis chars cumblasting a 30minute wheelchair raid

gee i wonder which one will have more logged character completions?

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You must not of played wow back then rofl.

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Daft.

Funny how you’re playing cata :3

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We don’t know how much churn there was in any expansion. Blizzard only gave us total sub numbers. Wrath flat lined for most of it’s 2 years but we know there was significant churn. We called the many newbies wrath babies. A lot of players left in Wrath. We don’t know how many new players started in Cata. There might have been less newbies and a normal amount of loss of old time players to account for some of those numbers. It might be the end of the lich king story line and a 6 year old game burnout. We just don’t know how much of the sub loss was because people didn’t like the game and how much because of other reasons.

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for real the SoD numbers are up because the 10 people that play it have every class max level raiding 10times a week

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Sod numbers arent up they are down.

Wont have Cata numbers until the 6th, just like its posted on the front page of their website.

I used some gold I had on the free weekend to get a token to level my top two characters up and their professions. I joined an old guild on my server and did a couple raids with them as they were having trouble filling (even with PUGs).

Cata is not a bad expansion much to my surprise, the dungeons and raids are good, and he guild achievement system is also great, it’s just very boring thematically compared to prior and post-expansions and systems like low points caps are annoying. The people I know who play or played are all over the place in sentiment so really need to wait and see before declaring whether its DOA or whether its another TBC situation where generally only the core people stay.

It is nice to see people who raided like a blind turtle in phase 1 of WOTLK performing well in raids in phase 1 of Cata as veterans leave the game. All things in balance I suppose.

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the average sod player couldn’t progress heroic in cata, so that’s why they all play sod :slight_smile:

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It will still not be a fair comparison at that time, or in 2 weeks.

People in SoD have multiple max, geared and buffed chars completing the very fast and easy raid multiple times per week, each of these chars counts as a raiding character vs the single raiding char that 90% of the cata playerbase has.

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They already have a SOD MC, Onyxia and Blackwing Lair.

It’s called Firelands and Blackwing Descent and comes in two raid sizes. Ok I’m being facetious, but Blizzard will probably rip some of their mechanics for the SOD version.

I doubt it, Sod players can only handle bosses that stand there.

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