Geez these DF talents are insane, DKs will literally be unkillable…
Edit: Sources - I have BETA
Welcome to retail where your baseline abilities do no damage and every dps passively heals themself to full every few seconds.
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Their general tree gives them basically all the defensives/healing/utility from all 3 current specs 
And it’s super easy to spec them all without sacrificing much
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- aoe chains + aoe blind
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Improved DS
Will of the Necro
Blood Draw
Sac Pact
Death Pact
Blind
Asphyx
AMS
AMZ
IBF
DK will never be a kill target 
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Do we know if they have damage yet?
I’m not a fan of any passive defensive stuff, but trading defensive talents for offensive is fine.
Admittedly I have only glanced at the tree, so I don’t know if this is the case.
Yes they do
The general tree is basically all utility, defensives, etc. The spec trees still have all the fun CDs and damage stuff.
Just depends on the tuning numbers really, but in messing around with a couple classes, DKs have so many more “can’t kill me” things than most
That’s the way it should be
While I don’t necessarily disagree, when comparing to other melee it might be overboard lol
If necotic is tuned appropriately, and our consistent damage is like a 5-6 - I’d love it.
No more CD based DK that’s a budget sub rogue gameplay. Just a juggernaut that can apply steady pressure.
You’re 100% right though - it’s a tuning thing that we’ve yet to see. It’s almost a moot point to get excited about talents when we’ve no idea the damage that’ll be going on. With that said, I don’t see as many modifiers for Unholy, so that’s good.
im on beta rn and it seems like dk is still cd based but its like 100-0 during cds basically feels like ret/war all of sl
I guess the few minor (if that’s a thing) CD’s like DT/Blight/Apoc aren’t that big of a deal.
I really enjoy UH, but I do not see myself playing it if we’re only able to get kills in an Abomb or similar type window.
Are you enjoying it the current feel of it on beta? Any glaring differences?
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wotn is probably the largest offender to me
i thought we learned after mop not to give passive sub35% talents to classes that have no effective internal cd, especially one as strong as will
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eh kinda im tired of the bursting wounds to do dmg
gargoyle is somewhat a good talent now because under it you get a talent that empowers it by 30% when your dt is up but unholy has a decent amount of cdr talents+festermight is back so thats good
And the talent right before it that makes enemies within 8yds take +20% damage from pets.
my dk could cut diamonds when i saw will of necropolis, perma 35% wall below 30% is insane
Looks like Veteran of the Third War is giving a permanent 20% damage reduction too, on top of the 20% stam.
Isn’t that just a tool-tip thingy? Or does it actually say that in-game?