Dreadmoore is part of the Horde problem that lead to Sylvanas being Warchief and BfA in general.
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Are you implying that the antlered manbearchicken star-warrior, whose dance is the guy on the right:
Is less classy than a cat? Because, excuse you:
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the story took a turn it can never recover when the word genocide was introduced to the fiction
that was the rubicon of the WoW story. they will try to undo it with the scenario but we will always have canon source material of shamans helping fan the flames.
if someone had the foresight to make it a super exclusive group of people picked by sylvanas, weâd have wiggle room but my meta view of the horde is ruined now, and it should be.
we are all guilty under the same standards we use in the real world to hold people accountable for such an act
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Those shamans are probably dead
it doesnât matter. The horde PCs action further the goals of an organization that perpetrated genocide, in universe.
this is the same logic the held officers accountable during WW2 regardless of if they personally did anything.
we act to protect it and further itâs goals and so are just as guilty.
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I feel so bad for my fellow Tauren. They are the one horde race I trully like and it pains me to see then dragged through all these mess.
My druid has been my main since day one and I always saw those Tauren NPC as buddies on Moonglade so sometimes I forgot they were an enemy race.
I still to hard headcanon most of them were busy at Silithus and only a few misguided ones helped at the war.
And the worst part is that I donât care that the Horde waged war on us but rather they still kept things going even after Teldrassil.
If Hord civil war wouldâve happend right after the tree things couldâve been easilly salvaged but the all stuck around until the very end.
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Uhh, duh! Listen to the words of Patrick Swayze. Also there is such a thing as Astral form buddy.
I donât see why the word matters specifically.
And? The more I look back at quests, the player character has done a lot of bad stuff.
Unfortunately sounds like a lot of modern countries today anyway.
Listen Iâm just saying:
Malorne
`https://imgur.com/PZxwNii
Cenarius
`https://imgur.com/2RvNNmg
Winter Queen
`https://imgur.com/wZDjdBG
Tear of Elune
`https://imgur.com/ScS1dCH
Elune!Demeter was sad because Jailer!Hades stole Winter Queen!Persephone and Eonar!(Nymphs of the Forest) comforted her and thus is why Eonar had her tear and gave it to the Night Elves
Notice the same antlers on the Tear and Winter Queen!
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adults have decided genocide is bad, as is murder and theft.
itâs one thing to say your villain burned a city down in your high fantasy
itâs another to say they committed genocide.
they could have avoided it all with word choice but someone somewhere wanted more emotion without fully considering what it means to introduce that into your media.
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Why is it different when our characters (Horde and Alliance) outright do things like mass population culls, killing unborn children, mind control. Iâm not saying genocide good (though in certain situations in a fantasy setting it could be). Just that I donât see how using the word matters when looking back at what weâve done, the player already seems quite amoral/callous.
because it does matter. all those things happen in high fantasy worlds but they are never called genocide in universe.
we are never told by the fiction that we are annihilating a people so it cannot be pinned as such.
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Why?
You havenât made the case why it matters in this context.
But you can literally see yourself doing it. Are you saying you had some mental moral blinders about culls, murder, theft, unborn child killing, and mind control until that word?
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words in fiction matter. you are examining these in a vacuum and thatâs not how they occur in game.
an example from Roux herself can be seen in the book when a gnome is thrown from a boat during a storm; itâs very detailed but we arenât meant to mourn this gnome
horde soldiers are deleted by the void during WQ, an awful way to go, but the source material never tackles it head on with a word like genocide and it matters.
examining these acts in forums is different than in universe characters bringing it up. it legitimizes it when jaina addresses the void torture; it makes it canon instead of just video game-y silly no stakes actions.
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Actions in faction also matter. You havenât told me why one matters more than the other.
Iâm examining them in the context of the game. Which is precisely why I find the word less relevant. In context of all prior and current actions.
I disagree. If someone can put on moral blinders for culling populations, murder, theft, killing unborn children, mind control, and biological experiments? All things in the story. Well then I donât see how the word genocide is some moment that shatters their illusion.
It is canon with or without a word. Seems like youâve built up some mental divide that needs to be considered.
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i donât think you understood me when I said words matter
the words used in fiction to describe events, actions or whatever matter.
artists intent matters. you are still looking at this as some kind of value system but examine these as works of art not a collection of tally marks.
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There are those who were actually happy to have the chance to run rampant killing as much as possible.
Not point arguing.
I did understand. The thing is that words matter to an extent. Because actions also matter in a medium where visual aspects are expressed. Seeing a genocide in a movie doesnât require someone to say âthis is genocideâ for it to matter. Iâm not denying the power of words, just that visual actions donât lack power either. That they are near equivalent.
Because youâre basically saying âall these bad things a character did were irrelevant till a specific word was usedâ.
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in a high fantasy mmo where the player can be anyone, yes.
This is for the PC only.
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thatâs not that this person is saying, it is just that giving player things to do in an MMO and also maintaining a cohesive set of morals for your universe is hard
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