We put kool aid in their hair dye and told them it was a new sunwell flavored effect. Poor saps never believed a thing when the Kool Aid Mangladiator slayed them all!
That’s easy to say after the fact, but I would suspect most of the Horde didn’t know about the whole tree burning thing until it happened and Sylvanas pretty much showed right then and there she was so cray cray, most where likely fearful of their own lives for speaking up. It’s super easy to say people are responsible for others, when those others not you know they would probably be executed for saying anything. This IS Sylvanas we are talking about here.
Oh but it would be the right thing to do, so they should have been willing to die for speaking up? Puuuulease, I think we all know that’s not how life works. As a soldier, you do what you are told, you don’t question the orders from up on high, unless you want a sword/bullet to the brain yourself. That, and it takes a rare person that actually refuses to follow an established authority figure over a moral issue.
Same here.
Because you guys want us to do everything for you while our own kingdoms were in literal turmoil.
Good riddance.
Better the lives of the innocents than a the life of a Horde soldier whose goal was to go there and occupy Teldrassil, right?
I cannot fault her, but I cannot follow her.
I choose to try to break the cycle, not because it is right but because it is better.
Uh chief, reality check: Terenas Menethil was the leader of the Alliance. Arthas was his heir.
Arthas literally destroyed his father’s kingdom. You’re telling me that it’s the Alliance’s fault that this happened? That the Scourge destroyed Lordaeron and couldn’t help Quel’Thalas?
ridiculous.
Lots of people argue that Arthas represented the Alliance because he was prince of Lordaeron, despite murdering the king of Lordaeron and destroying the kingdom. Anduin is among them.
I’m a Sylvanas loyalist and I completely respect this.
At least Tyrande has a spine
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The argument has no foundation.
And?
Yup, and a lot of that blame lies on Uther and the Silver Hand too. They abandoned Arthas at Stratholme and left him to his own devices. He was the Prince of Lordaeron and the Alliance are responsible for his actions just as much as the Horde are responsible for Sylvanas’ actions.
That was me taking the opportunity to throw a jab at how poorly written the twerp is.
They actually went to petition Terenas to rein his son in. Terenas didn’t act until Arthas had sailed for Northrend.
Unsure what you are trying to say here. I mean are you actually expecting people in an Army formation to just defy orders right then and there because they don’t like the orders and get executed on the spot? Do you understand how army’s function? Part of army training throughout the entirety of history is obedience and following orders without question. Do you think the Alliance would accept such behavior if Onxyia took control of the army and had it do questionable things? Serious question. You agree with the orders, and you agree happily, or you are dead.
That’s all you do.
Blame.
Nothing wrong with your own kind. Everything is the fault of the Alliance. Dar’Khan, the guy who literally opened the gate for the scourge? Oh no, he doesn’t exist.
You’re literally saying that because Uther couldn’t have done something he didn’t anticipate it’s his fault.
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I’m saying that you invoking the Nuremberg Defense is moronic.
Every Horde soldier is culpable. The order was to carry out a reign of terror against the Kal’dorei. If they did it, they are culpable.
Uther could have mentored Arthas like he was supposed to and shared the burden of culling Stratholme. The Silver Hand walked away from the growing evil in the city because they were too weak to do what needed to be done. Instead they ran away like a cowards and Uther left his charge without direction. Then after that the Belves had to deal with Garithos.
You say I blame? Want to know what you do? Deny. Arthas Menethil was heir to the Kingdom of Lordearon that was in charge of the Alliance of Lordaeron. He seized control of the nation, betrayed them, and then attacked Quel’thalas.
If the Horde is to blame for Sylvanas burning that tree then the Alliance is responsible for Arthas scourging Quel’thalas. Both carried out an act of mass murder at their own discretion.
Sylvanas gave an order. Mages lit the payloads, siege technicians fired the catapults, shamans used air to fan the flames and keep them burning.
Arthas disobeyed orders from the Highlord of the Silver Hand and the King of Lordaeron, killed his father, and then declared that he would destroy the kingdom. He did this alone, killing his men and the mercenaries that he hired to prevent them from sailing home.
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Arthas literally took away Uther’s power. He suspended the Silver Hand from his service. What else were they supposed to do?
When did I deny anything? I haven’t denied a single thing actually.
You’re lying. In order to make Quel’thalas sound like the fault of the Alliance you have to be dishonest.
Because Arthas WAS the heir of Lordaeron and he fell to the scourge and destroyed his own Kingdom. Unless you’re saying that the Scourge was part of Lordaeron?
Dishonesty again.
Sylvanas fought for the Horde. Can you tell me which side that Sylvanas was aligned with during the War of the Thorns?
Arthas fought for the Scourge. Can you tell me which side that Arthas fought for and which Kingdom that he completely destroyed that couldn’t help their allies?
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Technically arthas was fighting for all of us. He felt that unifying the world as a single undead race would be the most ethical and safe way to continue on.
I say arthas but it was really the lich king. HArd to say if it was ner’zhul’s prerogative or arthas’.