Tyrande in Elegy vs 8.1

What story in the War of Thorns? All we got was a 180 from Tyrande.

Val’sharah questing - Tyrande puts the fate of the Temple of Elune and stopping the Corrupted Ysera over the life of Malfurion.

War of Thorns - Malfurion is more important that an entire land mass going up in flames and the literal thousands of innocents burning alive inside.

You enjoy what’s happening to the Night Elves because it’s one more victory after another for the Horde and their Big Tiddy Corpse Queen.

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This thread has turned into such a treat. By the Light.

But to…clarify…

I’m aware most people don’t care and would rather Tyrande rush off to die, but as per Elegy she did have a good reason to try and bring back Malfurion; if the night elf leadership died, whatever hope for a nation after the fall of Teldrassil would lost. This was all under the impression that Sylvanas was trying to capture Teldrassil and kill it’s leaders.

Sylvanas deciding to burn it all was not expected. So no, she didn’t leave her people to burn in Darnassus, she was trying to make sure the Horde didn’t achieve the “kill it’s leaders” objective of their successful invasion.

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To be fair, she thought it was going to be an occupation, not a slaughter. But still… Tyrande has decimated entire armies with her holy might… In all honesty, the Horde shouldn’t have been able to do anything with her and Malfurion present.

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I can go into more depth about what I liked about these aspects if you really want. I don’t want to waste my time for you just to disagree, though. My enjoyment probably won’t change your own.

Terribly, terribly amusing. I said this back on the old forum enough, I play 90% Alliance (when I’m subbed). I quite like Night Elves, though I shy away from them since I never feel I do them justice in roleplaying. No, I enjoy the story focus being given to them. Having their characters actually do stuff for once (beyond being in Varian’s shadow). And I find tragedy can be super interesting for characters.

The problem is Night Elves only get tragedy… And yeah, we are -doing- stuff… But… It’s a Warfront, which means we are destined to stalemate and the likelihood there will be any resolution is little. Which has always been the issue. Canonlogically, Night Elves won the War in Ashenvale and Stonetalon during Cata…. We never got to see that in-game. There was no resolution for it, because it was never OUR story, it was Varian’s and Garrosh’s. Now, our home Is burned to Ash, and it’s still not -our- story… It’s Sylvanas’ story. We’re a footnote. Our story is about as relevant as the Arathi Warfront. And while it makes way more sense to have Forsaken in Arathi and Orcs in Darkshore, Blizzard decides to humiliate us further by Blighting Darkshore and raising Night Elves into undead… Which for some reason join the side of their murderers… Don’t sit there and pretend the Night Elves have gotten anything good from any of this. We are worse off than Gnomes, because at least the Gnomes are funny.

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Again, I respectfully disagree. But how you feel is how you feel.

Now this I will call absurd. As I said, I quite enjoy a number of recent events. I won’t pretend they are all good. But generally I see them as positive.

Gnomes are tragically under-represented and I see their humor as a negative in the story. Any race can be funny, you even have that pair of Dalaran Night Elves in Azsuna.

Imagine you’re a battle-hardened veteran of over ten thousands years being told to be patient by a young green boy

Yea

Maybe Anduin should quit being so cautious and naive and he could have ended this war already

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I agree with you, but, man. Doesn’t it seem completely unlike a creature that has lived for millennia to not understand patience and how to “play the long game?” Referencing Tyrande, here.

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Because pursuing the pointless needs of humanity doesn’t assist the night elves one bit. They are clearly being written off by Anduin since there’s not enough of them left to be of any use beyond cannon fodder for Arathi and Dazar’alor, so he’s not interested in helping them. And this will play out in the long run in the Horde’s favour, Darkshore will be lost, along with Kalimdor. Anyone who thinks otherwise is dreadfully naive. Additionally, Arathi will be won and Gilneas will be where the night elves will be sidelined for the rest of their pathetic existence in the game. Unsurprisingly a lot of night elf players would be fine with this, which is sad.

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Positive… for the Horde and Undead that you play Lol

To quote myself not several posts above.

I post on a Forsaken because it draws out these ad hominems, to my amusement.

It’s not an ‘ad hominem’ to suggest someone who mains a forsaken character is a fan of the race over others. You might ‘like night elves’ but you’ve got nothing to prove any investment in their story. I like Orcs too, but I don’t have a single Orc character, meaning if the Alliance went off and nuked Orgrimmar with all its citizens my response would be tepid compared to someone who’s mained a Orc from day one because they loved the aesthetic and appeal. You savvy?

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I don’t main Forsaken. And I explained two posts above the one you quoted as much.

If it makes you feel better to believe I don’t care about what happens to the Night Elves, that’s your prerogative.

and it’s pretty clear you don’t. Which is fine, just stop pretending you do by suggesting there is something ‘positive’ out of the absolute garbage known as BfA Night Elf lore.

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I certainly do.

I don’t really care to lie about something as silly as that.

It’s Anduin’s fault the night elves home was left undefended. Tyrande is the leader of her people and she is there watching them despair and suffer in Stormwind after losing their home, the horde is capturing, torturing and killing night elves still in Darkshore. She has supported the alliance to the detriment of her own people, she can’t wait any longer as more of her people are killed in deathcamps in Darkshore.

She needs to act as a leader for her people, not second banana to someone who didn’t know Sylvanas would use the plague. There is nothing wrong or out of character with what she is doing.

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